convore.json/groups/hacker-news/hi-need-your-help/messages.json

[{"user_id": 18347, "stars": [], "topic_id": 16455, "date_created": 1301566834.2100439, "message": "Someone I know is trying to involve in me in a startup, obviously offering me a stake in shares", "group_id": 95, "id": 490565}, {"user_id": 18347, "stars": [], "topic_id": 16455, "date_created": 1301568637.1036861, "message": "thanks guys,  @vega113 I think if an angreement such as that can be included in an agreement, that would be great", "group_id": 95, "id": 490687}, {"user_id": 18347, "stars": [], "topic_id": 16455, "date_created": 1301566957.4748709, "message": "is there any tips anyone could give to help me judge if a proposal is fair or not?", "group_id": 95, "id": 490569}, {"user_id": 8668, "stars": [], "topic_id": 16455, "date_created": 1301567477.3041, "message": "If you don't trust them to not fuck you over, should you be involved at all?", "group_id": 95, "id": 490604}, {"user_id": 18347, "stars": [], "topic_id": 16455, "date_created": 1301567645.3107331, "message": "@ZoFreX I do trust them, but I am not 100% sure how multi-person startups which don't involve same level of commitment usually decide split shares.", "group_id": 95, "id": 490628}, {"user_id": 18347, "stars": [], "topic_id": 16455, "date_created": 1301567716.79179, "message": "let's put it this way:  I need somebody's advice, but I don't have many people to ask :)", "group_id": 95, "id": 490642}, {"user_id": 11946, "stars": [{"date_created": 1301568605.406842, "user_id": 18347}], "topic_id": 16455, "date_created": 1301568394.009187, "message": "@jonathande4 The guy who got his shares deluded got a lot of $$$ without much effort. Without Zuckerberg his investment would result in 0$. Ideas are cheap. Performance is everything.", "group_id": 95, "id": 490677}, {"user_id": 10406, "stars": [{"date_created": 1301584237.763449, "user_id": 18347}], "topic_id": 16455, "date_created": 1301569760.226222, "message": "This is a very simple formula: http://bit.ly/eu4J0J - just to have an approach", "group_id": 95, "id": 490741}, {"user_id": 5584, "stars": [{"date_created": 1301584236.261652, "user_id": 18347}], "topic_id": 16455, "date_created": 1301571484.1953149, "message": "This might help - http://venturehacks.com/archives", "group_id": 95, "id": 490799}, {"user_id": 26244, "stars": [], "topic_id": 16455, "date_created": 1301596411.73612, "message": "You know @ZoFreX may have said it in a way I wouldn\u2019t but the point is still correct - you need to trust someone is looking out for you - there are limitless ways for business partners who are focussed on the money side to shaft you. So either a good friend in the business or a good lawyer makes sense. I wonder how Zuck would have done without Parker watching his back?", "group_id": 95, "id": 494557}, {"user_id": 11946, "stars": [{"date_created": 1301584245.1748769, "user_id": 18347}, {"date_created": 1301596124.4524429, "user_id": 26244}, {"date_created": 1301634970.507036, "user_id": 25828}, {"date_created": 1301716522.1207719, "user_id": 14070}], "topic_id": 16455, "date_created": 1301568183.7242341, "message": "@jamespaxi Try to read some literature, I would recommend: \"Founders at work\" or \"The art of start\". I think that it's impossible to tell if the proposal is right, as that would require to foresee the future, but you need to insist to include in the agreement some mechanism that would define how the shares can be reviewed later on based on performance/effort.", "group_id": 95, "id": 490670}, {"user_id": 18347, "stars": [], "topic_id": 16455, "date_created": 1301566906.9564121, "message": "I am not entirely sure how to value my contribution, and they are playing the \"I am investing money\" card + \"I am doing business research\" to justify a bigger stake for themselves, which I totally understand", "group_id": 95, "id": 490567}, {"user_id": 20107, "stars": [{"date_created": 1301584243.7659719, "user_id": 18347}], "topic_id": 16455, "date_created": 1301568239.3054371, "message": "I'd talk to the guy doing the start-up. Since your not doing much other than investing I wouldn't expect half., but since you are an investor and have some ownership of the company you can always push a fair price. On a side note, I'd watch \"The Social Network\" and make sure your not the guy who gets his shares deluded.", "group_id": 95, "id": 490674}, {"user_id": 26244, "stars": [], "topic_id": 16455, "date_created": 1301596208.0080409, "message": "Sorry the pedant in me is crying out \u2018diluted\u2019 not \u2018deluded\u2019 - although the connotation may still be correct ;-)", "group_id": 95, "id": 494543}]