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[{"user_id": 30456, "stars": [], "topic_id": 21291, "date_created": 1303771460.0257649, "message": "whatever", "group_id": 236, "id": 808026}, {"user_id": 763, "stars": [], "topic_id": 21291, "date_created": 1303767157.8811841, "message": "Eventually, you will be able to send directives to a user's other connected endpoints, without having to have your own explicit connection to that particular device.", "group_id": 236, "id": 807547}, {"user_id": 30494, "stars": [], "topic_id": 21291, "date_created": 1303766938.9127769, "message": "let me try to figure how to do it", "group_id": 236, "id": 807516}, {"user_id": 763, "stars": [], "topic_id": 21291, "date_created": 1303767113.6336689, "message": "This is not by design: We just haven't rounded out that angle of Kynetx just yet.", "group_id": 236, "id": 807540}, {"user_id": 30494, "stars": [], "topic_id": 21291, "date_created": 1303766512.3085849, "message": "From what I understood here : http://docs.kynetx.com/docs/KNS_Event_API_Documentation an Endpoint can raise events on KNS and consume directives ( javascript or json) that KNS returns.", "group_id": 236, "id": 807458}, {"user_id": 30456, "stars": [], "topic_id": 21291, "date_created": 1303767086.927702, "message": "@loic there are lots of code examples of different languages communicating with KNS here: https://github.com/kynetx", "group_id": 236, "id": 807534}, {"user_id": 763, "stars": [], "topic_id": 21291, "date_created": 1303767166.26296, "message": "But for now, there is some manual connections required.", "group_id": 236, "id": 807550}, {"user_id": 763, "stars": [], "topic_id": 21291, "date_created": 1303766659.9354191, "message": "Yes. I'm sensing a followup question in 5.. 4.. 3.. 2..", "group_id": 236, "id": 807480}, {"user_id": 763, "stars": [], "topic_id": 21291, "date_created": 1303766723.4659231, "message": "Yes.", "group_id": 236, "id": 807495}, {"user_id": 763, "stars": [], "topic_id": 21291, "date_created": 1303766795.941323, "message": "events are nouns: \"I am empty\" is the right thing. \"Fill Me\" is not a noun. Events are not remote procedure calls. You did this exactly right.", "group_id": 236, "id": 807506}, {"user_id": 30494, "stars": [], "topic_id": 21291, "date_created": 1303767222.8442791, "message": "lol", "group_id": 236, "id": 807555}, {"user_id": 30494, "stars": [], "topic_id": 21291, "date_created": 1303766988.3006461, "message": "how do I specify the Endpoint in the directive", "group_id": 236, "id": 807522}, {"user_id": 763, "stars": [], "topic_id": 21291, "date_created": 1303767035.078738, "message": "There is not a systematic way to send directives to a user customized endpoint.", "group_id": 236, "id": 807527}, {"user_id": 30456, "stars": [], "topic_id": 21291, "date_created": 1303767195.1796529, "message": "lots not start talking about explicit and manual connections. There are people under 21 here.", "group_id": 236, "id": 807553}, {"user_id": 30462, "stars": [], "topic_id": 21291, "date_created": 1303767843.360209, "message": "My webhook in ktest.heroku.com uses 'ktest' for the event name. I'm not sure what the actual 'noun' would be. Any ideas?", "group_id": 236, "id": 807635}, {"user_id": 30494, "stars": [], "topic_id": 21291, "date_created": 1303766684.0532141, "message": ":)", "group_id": 236, "id": 807486}, {"user_id": 30494, "stars": [], "topic_id": 21291, "date_created": 1303766932.870002, "message": "so now that I know it's possible", "group_id": 236, "id": 807515}, {"user_id": 30494, "stars": [], "topic_id": 21291, "date_created": 1303766713.9114461, "message": "is it possible to have the endpoint \"MyFridge\" raise the event \"I am empty\" which will send the directive \"fill MyFridge\" to the Endpoint \"MyOrganicMarket\"", "group_id": 236, "id": 807491}, {"user_id": 763, "stars": [], "topic_id": 21291, "date_created": 1303766753.3675871, "message": "I'd like to take a moment to point out the correctness of your example.", "group_id": 236, "id": 807498}, {"user_id": 30494, "stars": [], "topic_id": 21291, "date_created": 1303766760.8517981, "message": "sure", "group_id": 236, "id": 807500}, {"user_id": 763, "stars": [], "topic_id": 21291, "date_created": 1303766829.314064, "message": "directives are verbs: \"fill MyFridge\" is the verb in this case, and you also did this correctly.", "group_id": 236, "id": 807508}, {"user_id": 30494, "stars": [], "topic_id": 21291, "date_created": 1303766843.314589, "message": "such a miracle", "group_id": 236, "id": 807509}, {"user_id": 763, "stars": [], "topic_id": 21291, "date_created": 1303766866.872323, "message": "It's easy for non-event minded folk to name events like methods, which is not the Right Way (tm)", "group_id": 236, "id": 807510}, {"user_id": 30494, "stars": [], "topic_id": 21291, "date_created": 1303766903.8335509, "message": "I took the right event pill before asking it seems", "group_id": 236, "id": 807512}, {"user_id": 763, "stars": [], "topic_id": 21291, "date_created": 1303766969.3442309, "message": "I'll let you. :) Holler with observations and questions.", "group_id": 236, "id": 807517}, {"user_id": 763, "stars": [], "topic_id": 21291, "date_created": 1303767088.572351, "message": "Using webhooks or calling RESTful APIs, you can send directives, but they will not go as a kynetx directive document.", "group_id": 236, "id": 807535}, {"user_id": 30494, "stars": [], "topic_id": 21291, "date_created": 1303767137.729955, "message": "@alexkolson thanks Alex, I will check that.", "group_id": 236, "id": 807542}, {"user_id": 763, "stars": [], "topic_id": 21291, "date_created": 1303767249.7298119, "message": "I did say explicit, not elicit.", "group_id": 236, "id": 807559}, {"user_id": 763, "stars": [], "topic_id": 21291, "date_created": 1303769103.1365321, "message": "because you plant tags, your eventname isn't really ktest. You plant tags, so the KNS event name is still pageview.", "group_id": 236, "id": 807796}, {"user_id": 763, "stars": [], "topic_id": 21291, "date_created": 1303771178.661907, "message": "raise (explicit|http) event <expr> [for <expr>] [with <modifier_clause>]", "group_id": 236, "id": 807979}, {"user_id": 763, "stars": [], "topic_id": 21291, "date_created": 1303771431.6619451, "message": "that ruleset can save the calling RID into a list.", "group_id": 236, "id": 808020}, {"user_id": 763, "stars": [], "topic_id": 21291, "date_created": 1303771619.3436749, "message": "you picking up what I'm laying down? There are some pretty awesome things that can be done with apps routing and processing events.", "group_id": 236, "id": 808058}, {"user_id": 763, "stars": [], "topic_id": 21291, "date_created": 1303771311.3116181, "message": "yes.", "group_id": 236, "id": 808008}, {"user_id": 30494, "stars": [], "topic_id": 21291, "date_created": 1303771575.6611991, "message": "very niiiiiiiiiiiice", "group_id": 236, "id": 808051}, {"user_id": 763, "stars": [], "topic_id": 21291, "date_created": 1303769123.5937879, "message": "webhooks are not all about events: they can be RPCs as well.", "group_id": 236, "id": 807802}, {"user_id": 30456, "stars": [], "topic_id": 21291, "date_created": 1303771456.7458, "message": "n", "group_id": 236, "id": 808024}, {"user_id": 763, "stars": [], "topic_id": 21291, "date_created": 1303771150.8400929, "message": "Explicit Events: http://docs.kynetx.com/docs/Postlude", "group_id": 236, "id": 807977}, {"user_id": 30494, "stars": [], "topic_id": 21291, "date_created": 1303772726.5818501, "message": "thx", "group_id": 236, "id": 808136}, {"user_id": 30494, "stars": [], "topic_id": 21291, "date_created": 1303770482.1735461, "message": "Sorry, got visit just now. Let me try to be legally explicit. For now Myfridge can't tell all connected OrganicMarkets that their is a business opportunity for filling MyFridge without connecting to every market individually.", "group_id": 236, "id": 807941}, {"user_id": 763, "stars": [], "topic_id": 21291, "date_created": 1303770508.255739, "message": "that is correct.", "group_id": 236, "id": 807942}, {"user_id": 763, "stars": [], "topic_id": 21291, "date_created": 1303770529.270787, "message": "with a specific example that you build, we can help you make it happen for that narrow case.", "group_id": 236, "id": 807945}, {"user_id": 763, "stars": [], "topic_id": 21291, "date_created": 1303770539.338541, "message": "with a little time, we'll solve the problem generally with a platform update.", "group_id": 236, "id": 807947}, {"user_id": 30494, "stars": [], "topic_id": 21291, "date_created": 1303770550.2012241, "message": "fantastic", "group_id": 236, "id": 807948}, {"user_id": 30494, "stars": [], "topic_id": 21291, "date_created": 1303770915.0242319, "message": "A browser can raise a web event targeting an arbitrary ruleset with app.raise_event (not necessarily the ruleset that it got generated from). Why can't a ruleset raise en explicit event from another ruleset , or maybe it can.", "group_id": 236, "id": 807966}, {"user_id": 763, "stars": [], "topic_id": 21291, "date_created": 1303771114.932534, "message": "it can.", "group_id": 236, "id": 807974}, {"user_id": 763, "stars": [], "topic_id": 21291, "date_created": 1303771116.5463979, "message": "in the postlude", "group_id": 236, "id": 807975}, {"user_id": 30494, "stars": [], "topic_id": 21291, "date_created": 1303771214.350806, "message": "got it, with \"for\". great", "group_id": 236, "id": 807984}, {"user_id": 30494, "stars": [], "topic_id": 21291, "date_created": 1303771297.0908949, "message": "So that means that Myfridge could at least talk with all the connected browsers belonging to organicmarkets", "group_id": 236, "id": 808003}, {"user_id": 763, "stars": [], "topic_id": 21291, "date_created": 1303771340.711422, "message": "you can also build a pub-sub model of event distribution.", "group_id": 236, "id": 808012}, {"user_id": 763, "stars": [], "topic_id": 21291, "date_created": 1303771414.0333819, "message": "each organicmarket can subscribe to an event stream by raising an event to a ruleset.", "group_id": 236, "id": 808018}, {"user_id": 30456, "stars": [], "topic_id": 21291, "date_created": 1303771449.497359, "message": "loic is awesome.", "group_id": 236, "id": 808022}, {"user_id": 30456, "stars": [], "topic_id": 21291, "date_created": 1303771451.473927, "message": "just sayinb", "group_id": 236, "id": 808023}, {"user_id": 30456, "stars": [], "topic_id": 21291, "date_created": 1303771458.1030591, "message": "i can't even spell", "group_id": 236, "id": 808025}, {"user_id": 30494, "stars": [], "topic_id": 21291, "date_created": 1303771634.842706, "message": "absolutely", "group_id": 236, "id": 808061}, {"user_id": 763, "stars": [], "topic_id": 21291, "date_created": 1303771475.312561, "message": "then when an event comes along, it can foreach over the list, raising an explicit event back to each of the organicmarkets with a raise in the postlude", "group_id": 236, "id": 808030}, {"user_id": 30456, "stars": [], "topic_id": 21291, "date_created": 1303771493.003849, "message": "organicmarket. Interesting band name", "group_id": 236, "id": 808035}, {"user_id": 763, "stars": [], "topic_id": 21291, "date_created": 1303771518.0325451, "message": "seriously", "group_id": 236, "id": 808042}, {"user_id": 30456, "stars": [], "topic_id": 21291, "date_created": 1303771508.4078989, "message": "i realize im totally jutting into this convo. Sorry", "group_id": 236, "id": 808038}, {"user_id": 30494, "stars": [], "topic_id": 21291, "date_created": 1303771726.4287989, "message": "must be a little bit complicated to debug though", "group_id": 236, "id": 808069}, {"user_id": 763, "stars": [], "topic_id": 21291, "date_created": 1303771747.501307, "message": "a little. we have some plans for headless logging to help situations like that.", "group_id": 236, "id": 808072}, {"user_id": 30494, "stars": [], "topic_id": 21291, "date_created": 1303771865.5595901, "message": "does the platform support websockets?", "group_id": 236, "id": 808081}, {"user_id": 763, "stars": [], "topic_id": 21291, "date_created": 1303771934.844552, "message": "not directly, but a shim is easy to build if you need one.", "group_id": 236, "id": 808087}, {"user_id": 30494, "stars": [], "topic_id": 21291, "date_created": 1303772168.299722, "message": "sorry , what is a shim?", "group_id": 236, "id": 808110}, {"user_id": 763, "stars": [], "topic_id": 21291, "date_created": 1303772511.042479, "message": "small app that bridges protocols or document formats.", "group_id": 236, "id": 808126}, {"user_id": 30462, "stars": [], "topic_id": 21291, "date_created": 1303836034.640521, "message": "It seems like a local event router would be a good thing to have. This would forward events to KNS and send out directives to local systems.", "group_id": 236, "id": 816356}, {"user_id": 763, "stars": [], "topic_id": 21291, "date_created": 1303836533.9645929, "message": "Wouldn't it be cool if something like your home router could act as a local event router?", "group_id": 236, "id": 816469}, {"user_id": 763, "stars": [], "topic_id": 21291, "date_created": 1303836558.2434709, "message": "Or, say, the CustomCTRL? http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/916146896/customctrl", "group_id": 236, "id": 816475}, {"user_id": 30462, "stars": [], "topic_id": 21291, "date_created": 1303836152.62198, "message": "I might want KRL to fire off different test suites, but the Kynetx servers don't have access to my Jenkins server. The local event router could make that happen.", "group_id": 236, "id": 816378}] |