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[{"user_id": 1127, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12443, "date_created": 1299875289.9445989, "message": "Who's all in this panel?", "group_id": 373, "id": 326681}, {"user_id": 1127, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12443, "date_created": 1299875553.156033, "message": "Do you know if something else is there instead?", "group_id": 373, "id": 326722}, {"user_id": 6704, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12443, "date_created": 1299877300.872705, "message": "The panel is still on!  Chris Perkins asked me to stand in as moderator, and the panelists have all been able to make it.", "group_id": 373, "id": 326994}, {"user_id": 1152, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12443, "date_created": 1299875842.7216761, "message": "Should not be cancelled.", "group_id": 373, "id": 326762}, {"user_id": 19652, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12443, "date_created": 1299875495.608371, "message": "I think that got cancel. The moderator could show up", "group_id": 373, "id": 326715}, {"user_id": 1152, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12443, "date_created": 1299875838.8040719, "message": "Got cancelled? No", "group_id": 373, "id": 326761}, {"user_id": 1152, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12443, "date_created": 1299875845.9671681, "message": "It's breaktime.", "group_id": 373, "id": 326764}, {"user_id": 14578, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12443, "date_created": 1299877390.2182281, "message": "nice. =)", "group_id": 373, "id": 327004}, {"user_id": 19892, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12443, "date_created": 1299878646.4401541, "message": "pie-pee-eye is my unimaginative habit", "group_id": 373, "id": 327264}, {"user_id": 1169, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12443, "date_created": 1299878712.0166759, "message": "Ian and Graham pronounce each letter in WSGI.  It feels weird wanting them to say Whizgey", "group_id": 373, "id": 327281}, {"user_id": 17783, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12443, "date_created": 1299877221.9626291, "message": "Panel: Alice McGregor, Armin Ronacher, Graham Dumpleton, Ian Bicking, Mark Ramm, Rob BRewer", "group_id": 373, "id": 326982}, {"user_id": 1127, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12443, "date_created": 1299878538.1734149, "message": "Hows the panel?", "group_id": 373, "id": 327236}, {"user_id": 1127, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12443, "date_created": 1299878672.7691209, "message": "@rick446 ya I just assumed someone would figure out what im talking about if I called pronounced them the same :)", "group_id": 373, "id": 327271}, {"user_id": 6704, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12443, "date_created": 1299877350.536608, "message": "Yes. It is fvwm. I got tired of trying to re-configure decent virtual desktopping every time the Gnome default window manager changed. Plus, FVWM configs are really easily version controlled.", "group_id": 373, "id": 326998}, {"user_id": 20762, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12443, "date_created": 1299879220.4613869, "message": "uWSGI also has a really handy post_fork_hook that is called after the server forks.", "group_id": 373, "id": 327406}, {"user_id": 14578, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12443, "date_created": 1299877298.515866, "message": "is that... fvwm?", "group_id": 373, "id": 326993}, {"user_id": 19652, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12443, "date_created": 1299879425.433506, "message": "@mangelo The alcohol pronunciation is definitely more fun", "group_id": 373, "id": 327476}, {"user_id": 20745, "stars": [{"date_created": 1299878496.543921, "user_id": 4748}], "topic_id": 12443, "date_created": 1299878489.1555679, "message": "what about chunked encoding?", "group_id": 373, "id": 327219}, {"user_id": 20745, "stars": [{"date_created": 1299878697.242074, "user_id": 20741}], "topic_id": 12443, "date_created": 1299878675.3701029, "message": "what about ensuring submitted requests honor the content-length for wsgi.input?", "group_id": 373, "id": 327273}, {"user_id": 20762, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12443, "date_created": 1299878865.9571681, "message": "What kinds of middleware would I be writing with a new, easier-to-write WSGI? Didn't Ian write all the useful ones in Paste?", "group_id": 373, "id": 327330}, {"user_id": 6704, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12443, "date_created": 1299878463.1016729, "message": "Questions? ANYONE? :-)", "group_id": 373, "id": 327213}, {"user_id": 1127, "stars": [{"date_created": 1299878623.905879, "user_id": 1175}, {"date_created": 1299878699.375459, "user_id": 13954}], "topic_id": 12443, "date_created": 1299878571.2991149, "message": "Whiskey is how we say it around the office", "group_id": 373, "id": 327247}, {"user_id": 1127, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12443, "date_created": 1299878587.9069669, "message": "I heard pip-ee earlier, and now my mind is blown", "group_id": 373, "id": 327253}, {"user_id": 20747, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12443, "date_created": 1299878835.9904621, "message": "What's the future of form generators?", "group_id": 373, "id": 327323}, {"user_id": 20753, "stars": [{"date_created": 1299878983.96017, "user_id": 19892}, {"date_created": 1299878995.0536561, "user_id": 1127}, {"date_created": 1299879054.9412351, "user_id": 20782}], "topic_id": 12443, "date_created": 1299878951.3278649, "message": "uWISGI implements its own protocol (uWSGI), which seems to be highly efficient. Will this be of any concern regarding WSGI in Python 3k, and can Python WSGI take any lessons from such efficient implementations?", "group_id": 373, "id": 327346}, {"user_id": 20753, "stars": [{"date_created": 1299879320.53719, "user_id": 6704}], "topic_id": 12443, "date_created": 1299879223.696775, "message": "Celery", "group_id": 373, "id": 327408}, {"user_id": 20762, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12443, "date_created": 1299879900.8392439, "message": "This debate can only be solved by mud wrestling.", "group_id": 373, "id": 327599}, {"user_id": 20762, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12443, "date_created": 1299879033.5829129, "message": "uWSGI works with Python 3k too.", "group_id": 373, "id": 327365}, {"user_id": 20742, "stars": [{"date_created": 1299878860.076375, "user_id": 1169}], "topic_id": 12443, "date_created": 1299878778.7351601, "message": "is there any standard to do work _after_ sending a response?  i mean, on the same thread, not queueing (celerylike)", "group_id": 373, "id": 327301}, {"user_id": 14578, "stars": [{"date_created": 1299878857.532896, "user_id": 15343}], "topic_id": 12443, "date_created": 1299878832.575809, "message": "\"Asynchronous WSGI\" has been discussed off and on for a couple years. Is this an idea that makes sense? Would it make sense to have some other kind of standard for async HTTP handling?", "group_id": 373, "id": 327321}, {"user_id": 6543, "stars": [{"date_created": 1299879849.00752, "user_id": 1169}, {"date_created": 1299879853.1449311, "user_id": 214}, {"date_created": 1299879860.367058, "user_id": 20611}, {"date_created": 1299879865.081075, "user_id": 20624}, {"date_created": 1299879866.768625, "user_id": 20742}, {"date_created": 1299879870.0909951, "user_id": 15343}, {"date_created": 1299879875.795917, "user_id": 8384}, {"date_created": 1299880446.8998339, "user_id": 20660}], "topic_id": 12443, "date_created": 1299879835.844924, "message": "we'd like to see a fight before this panel ends", "group_id": 373, "id": 327585}, {"user_id": 20753, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12443, "date_created": 1299878521.2550299, "message": "Does WSGI represe", "group_id": 373, "id": 327234}, {"user_id": 1169, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12443, "date_created": 1299878936.3625541, "message": "but thanks anyway ;-)", "group_id": 373, "id": 327341}, {"user_id": 20777, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12443, "date_created": 1299879494.1490941, "message": "Pep 444 experimented with yield syntax where you can yield future objects to re-schedule the WSGI app upon success/failure of the future. It was an interesting hack, but performance was an issue.", "group_id": 373, "id": 327490}, {"user_id": 1127, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12443, "date_created": 1299878581.5377481, "message": "then again, im still not sure how you pronounce PyPi", "group_id": 373, "id": 327251}, {"user_id": 20624, "stars": [{"date_created": 1299878560.9171619, "user_id": 20751}, {"date_created": 1299878729.784606, "user_id": 15343}], "topic_id": 12443, "date_created": 1299878554.3692479, "message": "Pronunciation: Whiskey or Whizz-gi?", "group_id": 373, "id": 327242}, {"user_id": 20762, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12443, "date_created": 1299879015.136287, "message": "I don't think uWSGI's backend protocol is very tightly coupled with WSGI. They have implemented multiple WSGI and non-WSGI plugins that use that protocol.", "group_id": 373, "id": 327362}, {"user_id": 13954, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12443, "date_created": 1299878514.4156809, "message": "http://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-3333/", "group_id": 373, "id": 327228}, {"user_id": 20785, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12443, "date_created": 1299879141.956116, "message": "eventlet and WSGI works very well as long as you keep in mind what it is doing", "group_id": 373, "id": 327391}, {"user_id": 20742, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12443, "date_created": 1299879175.264173, "message": "@DanielHolth : eww, indeed", "group_id": 373, "id": 327401}, {"user_id": 20762, "stars": [{"date_created": 1299879102.7540679, "user_id": 1127}], "topic_id": 12443, "date_created": 1299879067.1133749, "message": "WSGI with greenthreads (gevent/eventlet) seems to work okay?", "group_id": 373, "id": 327371}, {"user_id": 19652, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12443, "date_created": 1299879352.82182, "message": "Sorry for misleading :(", "group_id": 373, "id": 327449}, {"user_id": 14578, "stars": [{"date_created": 1299879913.146517, "user_id": 1169}], "topic_id": 12443, "date_created": 1299879889.0502779, "message": "Seaside is a Smalltalk web framework based on continuations.", "group_id": 373, "id": 327596}, {"user_id": 20789, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12443, "date_created": 1299879957.098557, "message": "continuations based web framework == no understand http good", "group_id": 373, "id": 327619}, {"user_id": 1169, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12443, "date_created": 1299878908.6453979, "message": "anticlimactic.", "group_id": 373, "id": 327335}, {"user_id": 20745, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12443, "date_created": 1299878941.3886521, "message": "I wrote a simple one for dulwich to ensure a submitted request is gzip-decoded before sending it on down the pipeline", "group_id": 373, "id": 327342}, {"user_id": 20624, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12443, "date_created": 1299878615.303849, "message": "'pippi' is the one I usually go with, so as to distinguish it from PyPy", "group_id": 373, "id": 327259}, {"user_id": 20777, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12443, "date_created": 1299878807.148288, "message": "github.com/GothAlice/wsgi2 for PEP444 - grB the rest version.", "group_id": 373, "id": 327312}, {"user_id": 20641, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12443, "date_created": 1299878849.592334, "message": "I'd like to hear answers to @javierguerra's question.", "group_id": 373, "id": 327325}, {"user_id": 20777, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12443, "date_created": 1299878920.912761, "message": ":P", "group_id": 373, "id": 327336}, {"user_id": 6543, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12443, "date_created": 1299879134.7511201, "message": "FTR, there's a WSGI open space today at 6pm.", "group_id": 373, "id": 327385}, {"user_id": 20762, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12443, "date_created": 1299879149.562371, "message": "I've seen post-request hooks that basically rely on the __del__ method and reference counting garbage collection (eww)", "group_id": 373, "id": 327393}, {"user_id": 20742, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12443, "date_created": 1299878979.5539329, "message": "not about not-blocking, but about retunring a response and then the app do something else", "group_id": 373, "id": 327353}, {"user_id": 20789, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12443, "date_created": 1299879479.356339, "message": "I haven't found a generally good way to do it with wsgi", "group_id": 373, "id": 327487}, {"user_id": 13954, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12443, "date_created": 1299880032.2439539, "message": "+1 uwsgi", "group_id": 373, "id": 327644}, {"user_id": 20777, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12443, "date_created": 1299880128.2968891, "message": "Pep 444 does deal with the content length issue, and mandates chunked encoding where possible.", "group_id": 373, "id": 327658}, {"user_id": 20754, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12443, "date_created": 1299879230.402745, "message": "@DanielHolth gunicorn has a function you can define that will run after the request is returned", "group_id": 373, "id": 327410}, {"user_id": 20742, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12443, "date_created": 1299879299.7011881, "message": "what about yield() ing the response instead of return-ing it?  so that your app can do other (simple) things without queue management", "group_id": 373, "id": 327428}, {"user_id": 1169, "stars": [{"date_created": 1299879540.6511481, "user_id": 1}, {"date_created": 1299879668.7913671, "user_id": 20742}], "topic_id": 12443, "date_created": 1299879482.2650101, "message": "Will WSGI ever blow our minds in the future?  Will it ever introduce new paradigms to writing Python web applications?  (ala Seaside's continuations)", "group_id": 373, "id": 327488}, {"user_id": 16551, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12443, "date_created": 1299880698.5784049, "message": "@mangelo What you are talking about is a wire protocol used by uWSGI for internal communication. The mod_wsgi module has its own for mod_wsgi daemon mode which isn't too dissimilar. The use of wire protocol to proxy across a link like that is no different to how the SCGI and FASTCGI wire protocols are used. In other words, don't confused WSGI API with implementation wire socket protocol.", "group_id": 373, "id": 327767}, {"user_id": 20762, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12443, "date_created": 1299879423.039923, "message": "you can return a generator with the close() method like pep 342", "group_id": 373, "id": 327474}, {"user_id": 20777, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12443, "date_created": 1299879849.888824, "message": "Fight! Fight! Fight!", "group_id": 373, "id": 327588}, {"user_id": 1169, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12443, "date_created": 1299879825.4265649, "message": "Alice is furthest on the right.", "group_id": 373, "id": 327583}, {"user_id": 1169, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12443, "date_created": 1299879926.9624751, "message": "http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seaside_(software)#Key_features", "group_id": 373, "id": 327607}, {"user_id": 20786, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12443, "date_created": 1299879806.614316, "message": "Is Alice actually here?", "group_id": 373, "id": 327577}, {"user_id": 20789, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12443, "date_created": 1299879469.601239, "message": "weird, I had the exact same question re: doing small work after closing the connection", "group_id": 373, "id": 327485}, {"user_id": 20777, "stars": [{"date_created": 1299879973.6161001, "user_id": 20747}], "topic_id": 12443, "date_created": 1299879941.4424629, "message": "That'd be awesome if we had less epic beard.", "group_id": 373, "id": 327612}, {"user_id": 20753, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12443, "date_created": 1299883831.2422969, "message": "@GrahamDumpleton - thx", "group_id": 373, "id": 328347}, {"user_id": 6408, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12443, "date_created": 1299888612.1858261, "message": "@donpaulding look at nagare.org. Same components model than Seaside, continuation included (using Python Stackless)", "group_id": 373, "id": 328996}]