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[{"user_id": 8666, "stars": [], "topic_id": 4900, "date_created": 1297612310.7503891, "message": "I know little bit of Rails and Php. Yet not an expert in any of them. I'd like to focus one of them, yet hosting cost for rails projects make me think that php is still easier to code minus the beauty of Ruby/Rails.", "group_id": 447, "id": 91509}, {"user_id": 8029, "stars": [], "topic_id": 4900, "date_created": 1297615908.8997531, "message": "and I would say try EC2, it's quite fun :9", "group_id": 447, "id": 91948}, {"user_id": 8029, "stars": [], "topic_id": 4900, "date_created": 1297615851.551321, "message": "but only one request at a time", "group_id": 447, "id": 91935}, {"user_id": 8029, "stars": [], "topic_id": 4900, "date_created": 1297616287.9495881, "message": "we have 7,5 GB of ram and max 100 instances", "group_id": 447, "id": 92033}, {"user_id": 8029, "stars": [], "topic_id": 4900, "date_created": 1297616539.409796, "message": "our configuration in ec2 is xlarge for postgresql and 1-n larges for passengers", "group_id": 447, "id": 92080}, {"user_id": 8029, "stars": [], "topic_id": 4900, "date_created": 1297614784.9004431, "message": "Heroku is free, EC2 micro is free (for now)", "group_id": 447, "id": 91764}, {"user_id": 8029, "stars": [], "topic_id": 4900, "date_created": 1297614804.168503, "message": "building a nginx+passenger server is easy", "group_id": 447, "id": 91765}, {"user_id": 8029, "stars": [], "topic_id": 4900, "date_created": 1297614816.383908, "message": "damn, the web is full of tutorials", "group_id": 447, "id": 91767}, {"user_id": 4941, "stars": [], "topic_id": 4900, "date_created": 1297615645.6680951, "message": "you can even host Ruby for free on Google App Engine (via JRuby)", "group_id": 447, "id": 91891}, {"user_id": 8666, "stars": [], "topic_id": 4900, "date_created": 1297615748.369997, "message": "not that easy. php host is pain-free. shared rails host is sorrowful.", "group_id": 447, "id": 91911}, {"user_id": 7762, "stars": [], "topic_id": 4900, "date_created": 1297616203.778054, "message": "Heroku really is amazing! I've been using it for all my projects for quite some time now, only problem is the step up is quite expensive", "group_id": 447, "id": 92009}, {"user_id": 8666, "stars": [], "topic_id": 4900, "date_created": 1297616246.5755279, "message": "how many instances can I run with Ruby Enterprise in a vps box? (360mb ram)?", "group_id": 447, "id": 92020}, {"user_id": 8666, "stars": [], "topic_id": 4900, "date_created": 1297616608.4318819, "message": "do you combine it with s3?", "group_id": 447, "id": 92094}, {"user_id": 8666, "stars": [], "topic_id": 4900, "date_created": 1297615850.019084, "message": "I came to a conclusion that vps is most ideal (linosde/slicehost) but still way more expensive than php hosting.", "group_id": 447, "id": 91934}, {"user_id": 8666, "stars": [], "topic_id": 4900, "date_created": 1297616454.4091909, "message": "so you use passenger?", "group_id": 447, "id": 92063}, {"user_id": 8666, "stars": [], "topic_id": 4900, "date_created": 1297616820.9817951, "message": "I never used distributed resources, trying to comprehend the idea tho. But I wouldn't deal with such big projects anytime soon.", "group_id": 447, "id": 92136}, {"user_id": 8029, "stars": [], "topic_id": 4900, "date_created": 1297615806.646538, "message": "ec2 micro instance is free for a year", "group_id": 447, "id": 91924}, {"user_id": 8029, "stars": [], "topic_id": 4900, "date_created": 1297615824.015244, "message": "heroku's cheapest instance is free", "group_id": 447, "id": 91928}, {"user_id": 8029, "stars": [], "topic_id": 4900, "date_created": 1297615875.1075161, "message": "ec2 micro is now free and after that ~7 euros a month", "group_id": 447, "id": 91942}, {"user_id": 8029, "stars": [], "topic_id": 4900, "date_created": 1297615917.398921, "message": ":)", "group_id": 447, "id": 91952}, {"user_id": 8029, "stars": [], "topic_id": 4900, "date_created": 1297615816.7150011, "message": "I don't know do they have that offer still", "group_id": 447, "id": 91926}, {"user_id": 8029, "stars": [], "topic_id": 4900, "date_created": 1297616502.5749509, "message": "nginx+passenger", "group_id": 447, "id": 92072}, {"user_id": 8029, "stars": [], "topic_id": 4900, "date_created": 1297615673.7812879, "message": "with passenger, rails hosting is quite easy", "group_id": 447, "id": 91896}, {"user_id": 8029, "stars": [], "topic_id": 4900, "date_created": 1297615685.5867391, "message": "I think easier than php hosting :)", "group_id": 447, "id": 91900}, {"user_id": 8666, "stars": [], "topic_id": 4900, "date_created": 1297615767.5950019, "message": "btw how come heroku and amazon ec2 is for free? links?", "group_id": 447, "id": 91916}, {"user_id": 4941, "stars": [], "topic_id": 4900, "date_created": 1297615814.5002561, "message": "heroku has been free for small usage from the start", "group_id": 447, "id": 91925}, {"user_id": 8029, "stars": [], "topic_id": 4900, "date_created": 1297616302.636688, "message": "maybe 120-150 is fine still, but we wanted to play safe", "group_id": 447, "id": 92036}, {"user_id": 8029, "stars": [], "topic_id": 4900, "date_created": 1297616319.0211501, "message": "100 instances and when all of them are in use, a new server", "group_id": 447, "id": 92039}, {"user_id": 8029, "stars": [], "topic_id": 4900, "date_created": 1297616717.03016, "message": "so you need a subdomain to point to the load balancer", "group_id": 447, "id": 92117}, {"user_id": 8029, "stars": [], "topic_id": 4900, "date_created": 1297616700.2820079, "message": "although it sucks you can't make A-records for ELB", "group_id": 447, "id": 92114}, {"user_id": 8029, "stars": [], "topic_id": 4900, "date_created": 1297616669.388411, "message": "yep, backups and images are going to s3", "group_id": 447, "id": 92107}, {"user_id": 8029, "stars": [], "topic_id": 4900, "date_created": 1297616686.3204179, "message": "and ELB is handling the amount of servers", "group_id": 447, "id": 92111}, {"user_id": 8029, "stars": [], "topic_id": 4900, "date_created": 1297616704.076602, "message": "only C", "group_id": 447, "id": 92115}, {"user_id": 1955, "stars": [], "topic_id": 4900, "date_created": 1297777276.7916851, "message": "a vps box is more expensive than shared hosting because of control. you can install whatever you want on your vps and configure it your way. with shared hosting, you're limited to what the hosting providers puts on there and you hope it's compatible with your setup. it's worth the extra few bucks.", "group_id": 447, "id": 111166}, {"user_id": 8875, "stars": [], "topic_id": 4900, "date_created": 1297794451.4870279, "message": "whether it's php or rails, i would always go with a platform-as-a-service nowadays. it's just so much nicer to focus on your app and not have to be a computer-janitor for your servers too", "group_id": 447, "id": 113381}, {"user_id": 8875, "stars": [], "topic_id": 4900, "date_created": 1297794478.8296061, "message": "i found this sweet list from a user on TechCrunch about a bunch of PaaS's for different languages: http://d-ro.ch/2011/01/paas-web-hosters/", "group_id": 447, "id": 113387}, {"user_id": 8875, "stars": [], "topic_id": 4900, "date_created": 1297794492.9675601, "message": "imo, heroku does it the best and everyone is racing to catch up with them", "group_id": 447, "id": 113389}, {"user_id": 4219, "stars": [], "topic_id": 4900, "date_created": 1297959586.5829229, "message": "just wish hosting u'r own email server was easy :)", "group_id": 447, "id": 132700}, {"user_id": 9787, "stars": [], "topic_id": 4900, "date_created": 1297965399.8539791, "message": "@convy it is. Unless \"easy\" means \"I want to drag and drop my mail server to the internets\" for you. Also: just lease a box for $50/m and it'll be good for a while. You get very decent hardware for that price nowadays, with \"fair use\" traffic flatrates too.", "group_id": 447, "id": 133621}, {"user_id": 4219, "stars": [], "topic_id": 4900, "date_created": 1297971723.0334001, "message": "admining a mail server ain't trivial, anti spam et.c", "group_id": 447, "id": 134848}]