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[{"user_id": 31595, "stars": [], "topic_id": 21998, "date_created": 1304078584.4000981, "message": "awesome", "group_id": 8448, "id": 854850}, {"user_id": 31595, "stars": [], "topic_id": 21998, "date_created": 1304078419.2200761, "message": "oh, i see", "group_id": 8448, "id": 854817}, {"user_id": 31595, "stars": [], "topic_id": 21998, "date_created": 1304078654.9021239, "message": "hi brian", "group_id": 8448, "id": 854866}, {"user_id": 30250, "stars": [], "topic_id": 21998, "date_created": 1304079828.3459921, "message": "I was just going to mention that screencasts seem to be something people are hoping to see more of", "group_id": 8448, "id": 855171}, {"user_id": 31595, "stars": [], "topic_id": 21998, "date_created": 1304078221.5737269, "message": "hi craig :)", "group_id": 8448, "id": 854774}, {"user_id": 31595, "stars": [], "topic_id": 21998, "date_created": 1304078986.1135621, "message": "would be very nice craig!", "group_id": 8448, "id": 854964}, {"user_id": 30250, "stars": [], "topic_id": 21998, "date_created": 1304079611.913661, "message": "right", "group_id": 8448, "id": 855117}, {"user_id": 31603, "stars": [], "topic_id": 21998, "date_created": 1304078629.1403129, "message": "good morning", "group_id": 8448, "id": 854860}, {"user_id": 7384, "stars": [], "topic_id": 21998, "date_created": 1304078171.452656, "message": "Good morning folks", "group_id": 8448, "id": 854768}, {"user_id": 30250, "stars": [], "topic_id": 21998, "date_created": 1304079253.8944609, "message": "basically everything is working except for the read discussions and admin features like pinning, locking discussions", "group_id": 8448, "id": 855044}, {"user_id": 7384, "stars": [], "topic_id": 21998, "date_created": 1304078381.5532629, "message": "Well it depends on Symphony 3, which will take a long time", "group_id": 8448, "id": 854807}, {"user_id": 30250, "stars": [], "topic_id": 21998, "date_created": 1304078830.594275, "message": "We're logging in with OpenID", "group_id": 8448, "id": 854921}, {"user_id": 31595, "stars": [], "topic_id": 21998, "date_created": 1304078880.229017, "message": "glad it works", "group_id": 8448, "id": 854939}, {"user_id": 30250, "stars": [], "topic_id": 21998, "date_created": 1304079091.342109, "message": "But I haven't been able to finish the Forum extension, yet", "group_id": 8448, "id": 855004}, {"user_id": 31603, "stars": [], "topic_id": 21998, "date_created": 1304079113.965313, "message": "i'll have to chat with you later about that if you have time?", "group_id": 8448, "id": 855016}, {"user_id": 7384, "stars": [], "topic_id": 21998, "date_created": 1304078661.1388619, "message": "Nice, congrats man", "group_id": 8448, "id": 854867}, {"user_id": 7384, "stars": [], "topic_id": 21998, "date_created": 1304078716.7690201, "message": "How has it gone over?", "group_id": 8448, "id": 854885}, {"user_id": 30250, "stars": [], "topic_id": 21998, "date_created": 1304079018.1502149, "message": "Well, I'm not sure if Dale is going to be able to join us...", "group_id": 8448, "id": 854971}, {"user_id": 30250, "stars": [], "topic_id": 21998, "date_created": 1304079310.8134279, "message": "Now that I have some experience with building a members-based site, it would be good to discuss XPathr", "group_id": 8448, "id": 855058}, {"user_id": 30250, "stars": [], "topic_id": 21998, "date_created": 1304079321.7740569, "message": "And how we can move that forward", "group_id": 8448, "id": 855059}, {"user_id": 30250, "stars": [], "topic_id": 21998, "date_created": 1304080167.031713, "message": "Advocate for XSLT support", "group_id": 8448, "id": 855296}, {"user_id": 30250, "stars": [], "topic_id": 21998, "date_created": 1304080248.890238, "message": "hmm", "group_id": 8448, "id": 855325}, {"user_id": 7384, "stars": [], "topic_id": 21998, "date_created": 1304078932.557369, "message": "Marco, maybe you can head up the oAuth task force I have in mind for the new Symphony site :P", "group_id": 8448, "id": 854955}, {"user_id": 30250, "stars": [], "topic_id": 21998, "date_created": 1304079929.9828291, "message": "Perhaps we can interview people from the community", "group_id": 8448, "id": 855196}, {"user_id": 7384, "stars": [], "topic_id": 21998, "date_created": 1304080039.9216671, "message": "Let's spend 5 minutes discussing goals/priorities on a broader level", "group_id": 8448, "id": 855241}, {"user_id": 31595, "stars": [], "topic_id": 21998, "date_created": 1304080137.8539851, "message": "good", "group_id": 8448, "id": 855289}, {"user_id": 7384, "stars": [], "topic_id": 21998, "date_created": 1304078288.957103, "message": "How've you been?", "group_id": 8448, "id": 854788}, {"user_id": 31595, "stars": [], "topic_id": 21998, "date_created": 1304078306.2435441, "message": "fine thanks, what about you?", "group_id": 8448, "id": 854791}, {"user_id": 31595, "stars": [], "topic_id": 21998, "date_created": 1304078327.633162, "message": "will you release the book anytime soon?", "group_id": 8448, "id": 854794}, {"user_id": 31595, "stars": [], "topic_id": 21998, "date_created": 1304078330.064188, "message": ":D", "group_id": 8448, "id": 854795}, {"user_id": 7384, "stars": [], "topic_id": 21998, "date_created": 1304078368.000495, "message": "Ha", "group_id": 8448, "id": 854803}, {"user_id": 30250, "stars": [], "topic_id": 21998, "date_created": 1304078471.0981131, "message": "Hi guys", "group_id": 8448, "id": 854831}, {"user_id": 31595, "stars": [], "topic_id": 21998, "date_created": 1304078486.056226, "message": "hi stephen!", "group_id": 8448, "id": 854836}, {"user_id": 30250, "stars": [], "topic_id": 21998, "date_created": 1304078533.405802, "message": "Good to talk to you after our long hiatus :-)", "group_id": 8448, "id": 854842}, {"user_id": 30250, "stars": [], "topic_id": 21998, "date_created": 1304078572.233757, "message": "I've finally got some time, now that our sites have launched", "group_id": 8448, "id": 854847}, {"user_id": 30250, "stars": [], "topic_id": 21998, "date_created": 1304078598.2162311, "message": "http://www.domain7.com/", "group_id": 8448, "id": 854851}, {"user_id": 30250, "stars": [], "topic_id": 21998, "date_created": 1304078678.9101441, "message": "thanks!", "group_id": 8448, "id": 854873}, {"user_id": 31595, "stars": [], "topic_id": 21998, "date_created": 1304078682.0484409, "message": "looks very good stephen ;)", "group_id": 8448, "id": 854875}, {"user_id": 30250, "stars": [], "topic_id": 21998, "date_created": 1304078951.5834191, "message": "Yes, as of this week (Tuesday)", "group_id": 8448, "id": 854960}, {"user_id": 31603, "stars": [], "topic_id": 21998, "date_created": 1304079049.587465, "message": "were you able to convert the old members beta stuff to the current members extension?", "group_id": 8448, "id": 854980}, {"user_id": 30250, "stars": [], "topic_id": 21998, "date_created": 1304080138.031672, "message": "Raise the Profile of Symphony CMS", "group_id": 8448, "id": 855290}, {"user_id": 30250, "stars": [], "topic_id": 21998, "date_created": 1304080313.151536, "message": "it would be nice. Who wants to learn C? ;-)", "group_id": 8448, "id": 855340}, {"user_id": 7384, "stars": [], "topic_id": 21998, "date_created": 1304078477.239743, "message": "Morning", "group_id": 8448, "id": 854834}, {"user_id": 30250, "stars": [], "topic_id": 21998, "date_created": 1304079071.759481, "message": "Yes", "group_id": 8448, "id": 854996}, {"user_id": 31603, "stars": [], "topic_id": 21998, "date_created": 1304079882.0950971, "message": "I know how helpful Allen's couple of screencasts were to me in the beginning (and still are) and also Dru Reeve's on Symphony 1.x were really helpful.", "group_id": 8448, "id": 855185}, {"user_id": 30250, "stars": [], "topic_id": 21998, "date_created": 1304080074.240921, "message": "right", "group_id": 8448, "id": 855260}, {"user_id": 7384, "stars": [], "topic_id": 21998, "date_created": 1304080350.9989209, "message": "And there just seems to be little to no interest", "group_id": 8448, "id": 855349}, {"user_id": 31603, "stars": [], "topic_id": 21998, "date_created": 1304080593.7828231, "message": "Anyway, we could get Allen or Craig on the Big Web Show with Dan Benjamin and Jeffrey Zeldman?", "group_id": 8448, "id": 855430}, {"user_id": 7384, "stars": [], "topic_id": 21998, "date_created": 1304080782.7324779, "message": "We should also be thinking about the transition from Symphony 2 to Symphony 3/Whatever-it'll-be-called", "group_id": 8448, "id": 855481}, {"user_id": 30250, "stars": [], "topic_id": 21998, "date_created": 1304078642.41996, "message": "good morning, Brian", "group_id": 8448, "id": 854864}, {"user_id": 31603, "stars": [], "topic_id": 21998, "date_created": 1304079291.5521181, "message": "awesome. that's good to hear. sorry to pull us off task. to answer your question, i do have the agenda", "group_id": 8448, "id": 855052}, {"user_id": 30250, "stars": [], "topic_id": 21998, "date_created": 1304079398.1495991, "message": "given that current state of development", "group_id": 8448, "id": 855072}, {"user_id": 30250, "stars": [], "topic_id": 21998, "date_created": 1304079476.3728819, "message": "I was hoping you would", "group_id": 8448, "id": 855091}, {"user_id": 7384, "stars": [], "topic_id": 21998, "date_created": 1304079568.0483811, "message": "I think it's clear that everyone's time has been really limited. What I think might be helpful is first taking a sort of broad overview of the various kinds of things this WG could be doing. Then maybe prioritizing those and picking one or two to work on immediately.", "group_id": 8448, "id": 855100}, {"user_id": 7384, "stars": [], "topic_id": 21998, "date_created": 1304079599.2958691, "message": "I'm a little worried about getting bogged down in one big project over the long term, when there are lots of little things we could usefully do", "group_id": 8448, "id": 855109}, {"user_id": 30250, "stars": [], "topic_id": 21998, "date_created": 1304078693.2877641, "message": ":)", "group_id": 8448, "id": 854879}, {"user_id": 30250, "stars": [], "topic_id": 21998, "date_created": 1304079145.237395, "message": "sure.", "group_id": 8448, "id": 855025}, {"user_id": 7384, "stars": [], "topic_id": 21998, "date_created": 1304080430.102989, "message": "Yeah, other than that point, I think the goals look fine. Maybe we can try to break down that first goal?", "group_id": 8448, "id": 855373}, {"user_id": 31603, "stars": [], "topic_id": 21998, "date_created": 1304081175.099472, "message": "i agree.", "group_id": 8448, "id": 855554}, {"user_id": 30250, "stars": [], "topic_id": 21998, "date_created": 1304078775.3418541, "message": "people love that it's faster, has clean URLs, validates as HTML5", "group_id": 8448, "id": 854908}, {"user_id": 30250, "stars": [], "topic_id": 21998, "date_created": 1304078808.6001, "message": "And it's also running our intranet: http://chnl7.com/", "group_id": 8448, "id": 854913}, {"user_id": 30250, "stars": [], "topic_id": 21998, "date_created": 1304079077.5895901, "message": "It's working quite well", "group_id": 8448, "id": 854997}, {"user_id": 30250, "stars": [], "topic_id": 21998, "date_created": 1304080431.707526, "message": "And we've got a lot of people expressing how grateful they are to have found us", "group_id": 8448, "id": 855374}, {"user_id": 7384, "stars": [], "topic_id": 21998, "date_created": 1304081161.2784841, "message": "in terms of click rate and open rate", "group_id": 8448, "id": 855550}, {"user_id": 30250, "stars": [], "topic_id": 21998, "date_created": 1304078835.258204, "message": "Thanks, Marco!", "group_id": 8448, "id": 854925}, {"user_id": 31603, "stars": [], "topic_id": 21998, "date_created": 1304079983.57234, "message": "(interviews): maybe y'all can get some of those at the symposium this year???", "group_id": 8448, "id": 855227}, {"user_id": 31595, "stars": [], "topic_id": 21998, "date_created": 1304080672.48472, "message": "agreed", "group_id": 8448, "id": 855455}, {"user_id": 7384, "stars": [], "topic_id": 21998, "date_created": 1304081451.4560261, "message": "we've got more people using the system, and more experienced devs, but you might not know it", "group_id": 8448, "id": 855609}, {"user_id": 7384, "stars": [], "topic_id": 21998, "date_created": 1304081457.565928, "message": "we're not very visible", "group_id": 8448, "id": 855610}, {"user_id": 7384, "stars": [], "topic_id": 21998, "date_created": 1304081518.983288, "message": "would be nice if ppl were blogging a bit more, tweeting a bit more, etc", "group_id": 8448, "id": 855623}, {"user_id": 7384, "stars": [], "topic_id": 21998, "date_created": 1304081524.1146719, "message": "so that's a good point", "group_id": 8448, "id": 855629}, {"user_id": 31603, "stars": [], "topic_id": 21998, "date_created": 1304081729.104882, "message": "also, i know tony arnold was working on a blog post/tutorial how to make Tumblr with Symphony (especially in light of all the stability issues Tumblr's had over the last year)... that would be helpful", "group_id": 8448, "id": 855663}, {"user_id": 7384, "stars": [], "topic_id": 21998, "date_created": 1304081752.518791, "message": "Tony's knee deep right now. Don't think we can ask him for anything like that anytime soon", "group_id": 8448, "id": 855665}, {"user_id": 7384, "stars": [], "topic_id": 21998, "date_created": 1304081988.1907761, "message": "My sense is that most of us who would are simply too busy", "group_id": 8448, "id": 855711}, {"user_id": 30250, "stars": [], "topic_id": 21998, "date_created": 1304078745.14694, "message": "very well, so far", "group_id": 8448, "id": 854900}, {"user_id": 30250, "stars": [], "topic_id": 21998, "date_created": 1304079033.0427101, "message": "Does everyone have the agenda?", "group_id": 8448, "id": 854975}, {"user_id": 30250, "stars": [], "topic_id": 21998, "date_created": 1304079034.013761, "message": "https://symphonycms.basecamphq.com/W3569740", "group_id": 8448, "id": 854976}, {"user_id": 30250, "stars": [], "topic_id": 21998, "date_created": 1304079385.2058511, "message": "So before we get to that, maybe we can discuss what those should be", "group_id": 8448, "id": 855071}, {"user_id": 31595, "stars": [], "topic_id": 21998, "date_created": 1304080351.5901861, "message": "it won't be installed on shared hosting either way, and that's what people use", "group_id": 8448, "id": 855350}, {"user_id": 30250, "stars": [], "topic_id": 21998, "date_created": 1304081562.891228, "message": "Word of mouth is still the best way to get the word out", "group_id": 8448, "id": 855634}, {"user_id": 30250, "stars": [], "topic_id": 21998, "date_created": 1304078902.7694049, "message": "Me too!", "group_id": 8448, "id": 854943}, {"user_id": 7384, "stars": [], "topic_id": 21998, "date_created": 1304078905.644273, "message": "awesome", "group_id": 8448, "id": 854947}, {"user_id": 31603, "stars": [], "topic_id": 21998, "date_created": 1304078923.6244011, "message": "forgive me for the dumb question... Stephen, is domain7.com now on Symphony?", "group_id": 8448, "id": 854952}, {"user_id": 31603, "stars": [], "topic_id": 21998, "date_created": 1304078968.0600469, "message": "sweet! congrats man!", "group_id": 8448, "id": 854962}, {"user_id": 30250, "stars": [], "topic_id": 21998, "date_created": 1304079108.0724239, "message": "So the intranet forum is a little borked", "group_id": 8448, "id": 855012}, {"user_id": 31595, "stars": [], "topic_id": 21998, "date_created": 1304079398.4118769, "message": "right", "group_id": 8448, "id": 855073}, {"user_id": 30250, "stars": [], "topic_id": 21998, "date_created": 1304079439.0561271, "message": "So, we have Symphony 2.2.1, Members and Email Template Manager extensions", "group_id": 8448, "id": 855082}, {"user_id": 30250, "stars": [], "topic_id": 21998, "date_created": 1304079461.83009, "message": "I've also been working on the Forum and Schema Migration extensions", "group_id": 8448, "id": 855087}, {"user_id": 7384, "stars": [], "topic_id": 21998, "date_created": 1304079468.070509, "message": "Can I make a suggestion?", "group_id": 8448, "id": 855090}, {"user_id": 30250, "stars": [], "topic_id": 21998, "date_created": 1304079124.288928, "message": "I need some help with left joins", "group_id": 8448, "id": 855020}, {"user_id": 30250, "stars": [], "topic_id": 21998, "date_created": 1304079596.5320759, "message": "sounds good", "group_id": 8448, "id": 855108}, {"user_id": 30250, "stars": [], "topic_id": 21998, "date_created": 1304079358.9497881, "message": "But you'll notice that the agenda for the meeting has a blank spot for setting priorities and milestones", "group_id": 8448, "id": 855065}, {"user_id": 30250, "stars": [], "topic_id": 21998, "date_created": 1304080665.4936061, "message": "Again, it may be best to focus on what we've got", "group_id": 8448, "id": 855452}, {"user_id": 30250, "stars": [], "topic_id": 21998, "date_created": 1304080695.6720841, "message": "Focus on helping our community with the tools they need to get the word out", "group_id": 8448, "id": 855462}, {"user_id": 30250, "stars": [], "topic_id": 21998, "date_created": 1304079647.818152, "message": "So, shall we brainstorm some ideas?", "group_id": 8448, "id": 855126}, {"user_id": 30250, "stars": [], "topic_id": 21998, "date_created": 1304079675.521697, "message": "The big projects, I suppose, were XSLTea.com and XPathr.com", "group_id": 8448, "id": 855137}, {"user_id": 30250, "stars": [], "topic_id": 21998, "date_created": 1304079713.7026911, "message": "https://symphonycms.basecamphq.com/projects/5610951/todo_lists", "group_id": 8448, "id": 855146}, {"user_id": 7384, "stars": [], "topic_id": 21998, "date_created": 1304079957.3130431, "message": "Maybe the way to look at it is this:", "group_id": 8448, "id": 855214}, {"user_id": 7384, "stars": [], "topic_id": 21998, "date_created": 1304080063.486829, "message": "I know it's sort of rehashing some of the discussion that happened very early, but it has been a long time...", "group_id": 8448, "id": 855253}, {"user_id": 30250, "stars": [], "topic_id": 21998, "date_created": 1304080107.7925329, "message": "Do we like the goals that I wrote up a while ago?", "group_id": 8448, "id": 855276}, {"user_id": 30250, "stars": [], "topic_id": 21998, "date_created": 1304079709.3249681, "message": "But we also had a long list of other ideas", "group_id": 8448, "id": 855145}, {"user_id": 31603, "stars": [], "topic_id": 21998, "date_created": 1304079787.2726829, "message": "Would screencasts be more of big project? I would think that is something we can get periodically", "group_id": 8448, "id": 855167}, {"user_id": 30250, "stars": [], "topic_id": 21998, "date_created": 1304079899.7011991, "message": "And a regular series of tutorials", "group_id": 8448, "id": 855189}, {"user_id": 30250, "stars": [], "topic_id": 21998, "date_created": 1304080950.998482, "message": "Did we get any noticeable response from the email newsletter?", "group_id": 8448, "id": 855509}, {"user_id": 30250, "stars": [], "topic_id": 21998, "date_created": 1304081261.7108109, "message": "How far off is the new site?", "group_id": 8448, "id": 855575}, {"user_id": 30250, "stars": [], "topic_id": 21998, "date_created": 1304082142.2995181, "message": "But I'm hoping to change that", "group_id": 8448, "id": 855736}, {"user_id": 31595, "stars": [], "topic_id": 21998, "date_created": 1304082154.308959, "message": "it would be helpful to know what people would like to hear about", "group_id": 8448, "id": 855742}, {"user_id": 7384, "stars": [], "topic_id": 21998, "date_created": 1304082251.8502491, "message": "if ppl are blogging all over the place, we need to make sure the commuity can find them", "group_id": 8448, "id": 855770}, {"user_id": 31595, "stars": [], "topic_id": 21998, "date_created": 1304082444.411859, "message": "you're probably right, craig", "group_id": 8448, "id": 855833}, {"user_id": 31595, "stars": [], "topic_id": 21998, "date_created": 1304082481.391783, "message": "@brian exactly what i meant", "group_id": 8448, "id": 855844}, {"user_id": 30250, "stars": [], "topic_id": 21998, "date_created": 1304082579.4040539, "message": "Many people don't know that", "group_id": 8448, "id": 855861}, {"user_id": 30250, "stars": [], "topic_id": 21998, "date_created": 1304082589.89939, "message": "Even Dale didn't", "group_id": 8448, "id": 855863}, {"user_id": 30250, "stars": [], "topic_id": 21998, "date_created": 1304080894.511693, "message": "How to get involved", "group_id": 8448, "id": 855501}, {"user_id": 30250, "stars": [], "topic_id": 21998, "date_created": 1304081157.9433219, "message": ":)", "group_id": 8448, "id": 855549}, {"user_id": 30250, "stars": [], "topic_id": 21998, "date_created": 1304081590.413862, "message": "What sort of things get people talking?", "group_id": 8448, "id": 855637}, {"user_id": 30250, "stars": [], "topic_id": 21998, "date_created": 1304081690.0406761, "message": "reviving my blog, and posting articles on our agency site", "group_id": 8448, "id": 855656}, {"user_id": 7384, "stars": [], "topic_id": 21998, "date_created": 1304081715.33899, "message": "should we think about how we link all of these things together?", "group_id": 8448, "id": 855661}, {"user_id": 30250, "stars": [], "topic_id": 21998, "date_created": 1304080408.9914851, "message": "So, it seems we need to focus on what we've got", "group_id": 8448, "id": 855366}, {"user_id": 7384, "stars": [], "topic_id": 21998, "date_created": 1304080809.5428579, "message": "Because our take on advocacy will change once that starts to near beta", "group_id": 8448, "id": 855488}, {"user_id": 7384, "stars": [], "topic_id": 21998, "date_created": 1304079855.877615, "message": "It would take frontloading to an extent. We'd have to organize them, storyboard them a little, but after that they should be fairly easy to knock off", "group_id": 8448, "id": 855178}, {"user_id": 30250, "stars": [], "topic_id": 21998, "date_created": 1304080045.186516, "message": "Yeah! I'm really looking forward to Germany", "group_id": 8448, "id": 855243}, {"user_id": 31603, "stars": [], "topic_id": 21998, "date_created": 1304080467.7541931, "message": "Raise the Profile of Symphony CMS... do any of our british friends personally know people like Jeni Tennison. Maybe she or other XSLT people like Mike Kay, could be invited to the Symposium. Maybe, we can get those who have a voice that are known about XSLT to know about our project... maybe that can help", "group_id": 8448, "id": 855390}, {"user_id": 30250, "stars": [], "topic_id": 21998, "date_created": 1304080510.643914, "message": "Have you been in contact with Jeni lately, Brian?", "group_id": 8448, "id": 855403}, {"user_id": 31603, "stars": [], "topic_id": 21998, "date_created": 1304080552.75158, "message": "I've tried. She's only answered me lately when I notified her that the EXSLT website was down.", "group_id": 8448, "id": 855415}, {"user_id": 30250, "stars": [], "topic_id": 21998, "date_created": 1304080564.5445559, "message": "ah", "group_id": 8448, "id": 855421}, {"user_id": 30250, "stars": [], "topic_id": 21998, "date_created": 1304081371.9833939, "message": "Helping them to blog, tweet, whatever, and make Symphony more findable?", "group_id": 8448, "id": 855586}, {"user_id": 7384, "stars": [], "topic_id": 21998, "date_created": 1304081626.1457641, "message": "hopefully symphony 3", "group_id": 8448, "id": 855641}, {"user_id": 7384, "stars": [], "topic_id": 21998, "date_created": 1304081766.9293699, "message": "Brendan's join DS makes tumblelog much easier though", "group_id": 8448, "id": 855670}, {"user_id": 30250, "stars": [], "topic_id": 21998, "date_created": 1304081794.0236621, "message": "Union extension?", "group_id": 8448, "id": 855676}, {"user_id": 31595, "stars": [], "topic_id": 21998, "date_created": 1304081847.1302259, "message": "right", "group_id": 8448, "id": 855685}, {"user_id": 7384, "stars": [], "topic_id": 21998, "date_created": 1304081883.671073, "message": "*shoudn't", "group_id": 8448, "id": 855693}, {"user_id": 7384, "stars": [], "topic_id": 21998, "date_created": 1304082318.5525601, "message": "yeah. new site combines showcase into the main discussion stream", "group_id": 8448, "id": 855789}, {"user_id": 31603, "stars": [], "topic_id": 21998, "date_created": 1304082321.623138, "message": "i second that... there's some great sites in there", "group_id": 8448, "id": 855792}, {"user_id": 31603, "stars": [], "topic_id": 21998, "date_created": 1304079907.4914391, "message": "yep.", "group_id": 8448, "id": 855192}, {"user_id": 30250, "stars": [], "topic_id": 21998, "date_created": 1304080121.9347539, "message": "See Strategies: https://symphonycms.basecamphq.com/projects/5610951/todo_lists", "group_id": 8448, "id": 855284}, {"user_id": 31595, "stars": [], "topic_id": 21998, "date_created": 1304081153.7528441, "message": "i think it's useless to schedule a newsletter", "group_id": 8448, "id": 855547}, {"user_id": 7384, "stars": [], "topic_id": 21998, "date_created": 1304081167.6810541, "message": "but I don't think we should do them often", "group_id": 8448, "id": 855553}, {"user_id": 7384, "stars": [], "topic_id": 21998, "date_created": 1304080695.221307, "message": "Here's one thing", "group_id": 8448, "id": 855461}, {"user_id": 7384, "stars": [], "topic_id": 21998, "date_created": 1304081802.599036, "message": "yeah whatever the hell it's called", "group_id": 8448, "id": 855677}, {"user_id": 7384, "stars": [], "topic_id": 21998, "date_created": 1304081938.0680261, "message": "ok so there's one strategy for increasing Symphony's profile: trying to get more people talking about it in addition to using it", "group_id": 8448, "id": 855704}, {"user_id": 7384, "stars": [], "topic_id": 21998, "date_created": 1304080019.108767, "message": "You're a group of 3 or 4 guys who have a little bit of time to contribute to this open source project each month... You want to help advocate for the platform. Where do you direct your limited time?", "group_id": 8448, "id": 855235}, {"user_id": 7384, "stars": [], "topic_id": 21998, "date_created": 1304080398.412286, "message": "We're worried in general about the future of XML/XSLT but that's not something worth addressing right now", "group_id": 8448, "id": 855363}, {"user_id": 30250, "stars": [], "topic_id": 21998, "date_created": 1304081333.881721, "message": "Should we be connecting up our network of users?", "group_id": 8448, "id": 855583}, {"user_id": 7384, "stars": [], "topic_id": 21998, "date_created": 1304081841.2001581, "message": "BZ, Marco, you guys don't blog right?", "group_id": 8448, "id": 855684}, {"user_id": 30250, "stars": [], "topic_id": 21998, "date_created": 1304082086.7143421, "message": "I finally have a viable platform to talk about Symphony more", "group_id": 8448, "id": 855728}, {"user_id": 31603, "stars": [], "topic_id": 21998, "date_created": 1304082126.8118169, "message": ":)", "group_id": 8448, "id": 855734}, {"user_id": 7384, "stars": [], "topic_id": 21998, "date_created": 1304082453.222002, "message": "playing up showcases should definitely be a goal", "group_id": 8448, "id": 855838}, {"user_id": 7384, "stars": [], "topic_id": 21998, "date_created": 1304082491.3823521, "message": "any other examples of \"Working with what we've got\"?", "group_id": 8448, "id": 855847}, {"user_id": 7384, "stars": [], "topic_id": 21998, "date_created": 1304082816.6902621, "message": "that brings us back to xsltea.com and xpathr.com", "group_id": 8448, "id": 855898}, {"user_id": 7384, "stars": [], "topic_id": 21998, "date_created": 1304083017.412364, "message": "I think we're not far from finding a good balance with that, but I'm not sure how long it'll take to build", "group_id": 8448, "id": 855919}, {"user_id": 30250, "stars": [], "topic_id": 21998, "date_created": 1304080148.602639, "message": "Promote Best Practices with XML, XSLT and HTML", "group_id": 8448, "id": 855292}, {"user_id": 7384, "stars": [], "topic_id": 21998, "date_created": 1304080193.591414, "message": "XSLT support is looking more and more like a lost cause Im' afraid", "group_id": 8448, "id": 855305}, {"user_id": 30250, "stars": [], "topic_id": 21998, "date_created": 1304080194.1605051, "message": "Build Community", "group_id": 8448, "id": 855306}, {"user_id": 31603, "stars": [], "topic_id": 21998, "date_created": 1304080277.248466, "message": "yeah, if only we could find a c programmer to build out xslt 2 for libxslt", "group_id": 8448, "id": 855330}, {"user_id": 31603, "stars": [], "topic_id": 21998, "date_created": 1304081199.230484, "message": "or major announcements.", "group_id": 8448, "id": 855559}, {"user_id": 31603, "stars": [], "topic_id": 21998, "date_created": 1304081896.0236161, "message": ":)", "group_id": 8448, "id": 855695}, {"user_id": 30250, "stars": [], "topic_id": 21998, "date_created": 1304081997.572576, "message": "probably", "group_id": 8448, "id": 855714}, {"user_id": 7384, "stars": [], "topic_id": 21998, "date_created": 1304080341.485065, "message": "It just seems increasingly unlikely. Mike Kay has estimated that you're talking about several years of coding effort from top-flight C programmers", "group_id": 8448, "id": 855344}, {"user_id": 30250, "stars": [], "topic_id": 21998, "date_created": 1304080654.9757349, "message": "That'd be cool. Do you think they would go for it?", "group_id": 8448, "id": 855447}, {"user_id": 30250, "stars": [], "topic_id": 21998, "date_created": 1304080480.1705921, "message": "http://symphony-cms.com/discuss/thread/24607/10/", "group_id": 8448, "id": 855396}, {"user_id": 7384, "stars": [], "topic_id": 21998, "date_created": 1304080660.020479, "message": "doubtful", "group_id": 8448, "id": 855450}, {"user_id": 30250, "stars": [], "topic_id": 21998, "date_created": 1304080744.1286099, "message": "and the tools to get the job done", "group_id": 8448, "id": 855476}, {"user_id": 30250, "stars": [], "topic_id": 21998, "date_created": 1304080806.9537809, "message": "right", "group_id": 8448, "id": 855487}, {"user_id": 30250, "stars": [], "topic_id": 21998, "date_created": 1304080859.2591209, "message": "So letting people know about the development roadmap", "group_id": 8448, "id": 855497}, {"user_id": 30250, "stars": [], "topic_id": 21998, "date_created": 1304080915.7609029, "message": "Working groups", "group_id": 8448, "id": 855504}, {"user_id": 30250, "stars": [], "topic_id": 21998, "date_created": 1304080994.979666, "message": "Should we plan for regular updates?", "group_id": 8448, "id": 855513}, {"user_id": 30250, "stars": [], "topic_id": 21998, "date_created": 1304081040.1811409, "message": "Would it be better to focus on keeping the blog up to date?", "group_id": 8448, "id": 855525}, {"user_id": 31603, "stars": [], "topic_id": 21998, "date_created": 1304081106.304496, "message": "i think keeping the blog up to date would be good. and maybe our content on the newsletter could be from the blog and maybe a few announcements...", "group_id": 8448, "id": 855535}, {"user_id": 31603, "stars": [], "topic_id": 21998, "date_created": 1304081125.59688, "message": "would the newsletter be monthly? every other month? quarterly?", "group_id": 8448, "id": 855540}, {"user_id": 7384, "stars": [], "topic_id": 21998, "date_created": 1304081178.790448, "message": "like Marco's saying, major releases, etc", "group_id": 8448, "id": 855555}, {"user_id": 7384, "stars": [], "topic_id": 21998, "date_created": 1304081149.412199, "message": "the response from the newsletter was fairly good", "group_id": 8448, "id": 855545}, {"user_id": 31595, "stars": [], "topic_id": 21998, "date_created": 1304081165.093519, "message": "when there's something big that worth it", "group_id": 8448, "id": 855551}, {"user_id": 7384, "stars": [], "topic_id": 21998, "date_created": 1304081310.6835921, "message": "will be a while. atm it's just me working on it, and it's certainly not the only thing I'm working on", "group_id": 8448, "id": 855578}, {"user_id": 31595, "stars": [], "topic_id": 21998, "date_created": 1304082185.6868601, "message": "it's pointless to put efforts in writing something no one cares about", "group_id": 8448, "id": 855755}, {"user_id": 7384, "stars": [], "topic_id": 21998, "date_created": 1304082208.567203, "message": "true", "group_id": 8448, "id": 855760}, {"user_id": 31595, "stars": [], "topic_id": 21998, "date_created": 1304082266.431412, "message": "yeah, some kind of symphony \"planet\"", "group_id": 8448, "id": 855774}, {"user_id": 7384, "stars": [], "topic_id": 21998, "date_created": 1304082402.8841641, "message": "the \"planet\" idea would be nice but that's something that has to follow the actual activity, not precede it. unless you think it'd be a motivator, but I'm not sure I'm convinced", "group_id": 8448, "id": 855819}, {"user_id": 31595, "stars": [], "topic_id": 21998, "date_created": 1304082414.758548, "message": "like x sections, y datasources", "group_id": 8448, "id": 855824}, {"user_id": 7384, "stars": [], "topic_id": 21998, "date_created": 1304081193.344111, "message": "blogging more often would be good", "group_id": 8448, "id": 855558}, {"user_id": 7384, "stars": [], "topic_id": 21998, "date_created": 1304081206.1962049, "message": "although on the new site there probably won't be a blog at all", "group_id": 8448, "id": 855562}, {"user_id": 7384, "stars": [], "topic_id": 21998, "date_created": 1304081474.3109391, "message": "partly because our community tends to be developer-heavy, and they like to keep their heads in code", "group_id": 8448, "id": 855613}, {"user_id": 7384, "stars": [], "topic_id": 21998, "date_created": 1304081630.4416881, "message": ";)", "group_id": 8448, "id": 855643}, {"user_id": 30250, "stars": [], "topic_id": 21998, "date_created": 1304081656.4121671, "message": "A big reason I haven't been doing a lot of blogging, tweeting is being head down in getting the work done", "group_id": 8448, "id": 855646}, {"user_id": 30250, "stars": [], "topic_id": 21998, "date_created": 1304081700.1340771, "message": "But we have some work to do on updating our site too", "group_id": 8448, "id": 855658}, {"user_id": 30250, "stars": [], "topic_id": 21998, "date_created": 1304082046.8637021, "message": "Well, I think I've found my motivation", "group_id": 8448, "id": 855720}, {"user_id": 7384, "stars": [], "topic_id": 21998, "date_created": 1304081432.8518181, "message": "I've been thinking about this lately", "group_id": 8448, "id": 855604}, {"user_id": 30250, "stars": [], "topic_id": 21998, "date_created": 1304082300.7757959, "message": "I'd love it if the showcase were more visible", "group_id": 8448, "id": 855783}, {"user_id": 31595, "stars": [], "topic_id": 21998, "date_created": 1304082403.6639891, "message": "would be also nice to include some kind of statistics", "group_id": 8448, "id": 855820}, {"user_id": 31603, "stars": [], "topic_id": 21998, "date_created": 1304081212.807735, "message": "like the symposium", "group_id": 8448, "id": 855563}, {"user_id": 30250, "stars": [], "topic_id": 21998, "date_created": 1304081723.782563, "message": "I just ported it mostly verbatim from the old version", "group_id": 8448, "id": 855662}, {"user_id": 31603, "stars": [], "topic_id": 21998, "date_created": 1304081857.304867, "message": "right. i can start though", "group_id": 8448, "id": 855688}, {"user_id": 30250, "stars": [], "topic_id": 21998, "date_created": 1304082168.310184, "message": "And the Members extension is a big, big deal for me", "group_id": 8448, "id": 855747}, {"user_id": 30250, "stars": [], "topic_id": 21998, "date_created": 1304081404.986053, "message": ".net magazine?", "group_id": 8448, "id": 855594}, {"user_id": 7384, "stars": [], "topic_id": 21998, "date_created": 1304081666.8489039, "message": "yeah I think that's true for most of us", "group_id": 8448, "id": 855651}, {"user_id": 30250, "stars": [], "topic_id": 21998, "date_created": 1304081674.547725, "message": "So, I would like to start there", "group_id": 8448, "id": 855653}, {"user_id": 31603, "stars": [], "topic_id": 21998, "date_created": 1304081766.5120549, "message": "gotcha.", "group_id": 8448, "id": 855669}, {"user_id": 31595, "stars": [], "topic_id": 21998, "date_created": 1304081862.577219, "message": "same for me", "group_id": 8448, "id": 855689}, {"user_id": 7384, "stars": [], "topic_id": 21998, "date_created": 1304081879.356652, "message": "well we should be forcing you to blog just to promote Symphony :P", "group_id": 8448, "id": 855691}, {"user_id": 7384, "stars": [], "topic_id": 21998, "date_created": 1304082024.053782, "message": "so... what would motivate us to take time to talk about it more?", "group_id": 8448, "id": 855717}, {"user_id": 30250, "stars": [], "topic_id": 21998, "date_created": 1304082059.7675869, "message": "Our agency is finally buying into the idea of Symphony", "group_id": 8448, "id": 855723}, {"user_id": 7384, "stars": [], "topic_id": 21998, "date_created": 1304082065.783556, "message": "I think I've found mine too. I might need to find a job soon!", "group_id": 8448, "id": 855725}, {"user_id": 30250, "stars": [], "topic_id": 21998, "date_created": 1304082249.3704951, "message": "One good tutorial on how to build an extension for Symphony would help", "group_id": 8448, "id": 855768}, {"user_id": 30250, "stars": [], "topic_id": 21998, "date_created": 1304082441.0627501, "message": "share entity diagrams", "group_id": 8448, "id": 855830}, {"user_id": 7384, "stars": [], "topic_id": 21998, "date_created": 1304082640.0384641, "message": "Would be fun to have the Core WG do short posts about it", "group_id": 8448, "id": 855869}, {"user_id": 30250, "stars": [], "topic_id": 21998, "date_created": 1304082689.5928719, "message": "I think we probably all have something to learn about XSLT, though", "group_id": 8448, "id": 855880}, {"user_id": 7384, "stars": [], "topic_id": 21998, "date_created": 1304082899.503943, "message": "wrt to xsltea ad xpathr:", "group_id": 8448, "id": 855908}, {"user_id": 30250, "stars": [], "topic_id": 21998, "date_created": 1304082926.140965, "message": "I still think we were on to something with xpathr", "group_id": 8448, "id": 855911}, {"user_id": 30250, "stars": [], "topic_id": 21998, "date_created": 1304082218.8132651, "message": "The forum discussions are a good gauge of what people are interested in", "group_id": 8448, "id": 855763}, {"user_id": 31603, "stars": [], "topic_id": 21998, "date_created": 1304082434.761591, "message": "and maybe that will generate discussion on how the built the site... or give you insight on how they approached the site using Symphony", "group_id": 8448, "id": 855828}, {"user_id": 30250, "stars": [], "topic_id": 21998, "date_created": 1304083242.7671549, "message": "The Members extension needs documentation and examples", "group_id": 8448, "id": 855961}, {"user_id": 7384, "stars": [], "topic_id": 21998, "date_created": 1304083818.0687289, "message": "xpathr could launch in the medium term and be of more immediate use, but will take a little while to continue scoping it, and then build it", "group_id": 8448, "id": 856125}, {"user_id": 7384, "stars": [], "topic_id": 21998, "date_created": 1304083821.1316609, "message": "Allen?", "group_id": 8448, "id": 856126}, {"user_id": 30250, "stars": [], "topic_id": 21998, "date_created": 1304083908.180177, "message": "possibly to xsltea", "group_id": 8448, "id": 856147}, {"user_id": 30250, "stars": [], "topic_id": 21998, "date_created": 1304084047.393477, "message": "5) articles about the API and extensions", "group_id": 8448, "id": 856176}, {"user_id": 7384, "stars": [], "topic_id": 21998, "date_created": 1304081898.30252, "message": "i always type \"should\" when I mean to type \"shouldn't\"", "group_id": 8448, "id": 855696}, {"user_id": 7384, "stars": [], "topic_id": 21998, "date_created": 1304081904.7659421, "message": "it's led to considerable confusion", "group_id": 8448, "id": 855697}, {"user_id": 7384, "stars": [], "topic_id": 21998, "date_created": 1304081911.205198, "message": ":-/", "group_id": 8448, "id": 855698}, {"user_id": 30250, "stars": [], "topic_id": 21998, "date_created": 1304081917.4622869, "message": "lol", "group_id": 8448, "id": 855699}, {"user_id": 31603, "stars": [], "topic_id": 21998, "date_created": 1304081921.0714719, "message": ":)", "group_id": 8448, "id": 855700}, {"user_id": 7384, "stars": [], "topic_id": 21998, "date_created": 1304081964.1960399, "message": "we'll have to think about the best way to do that", "group_id": 8448, "id": 855707}, {"user_id": 30250, "stars": [], "topic_id": 21998, "date_created": 1304082111.2236431, "message": "to build a library of tutorials for our own team", "group_id": 8448, "id": 855732}, {"user_id": 30250, "stars": [], "topic_id": 21998, "date_created": 1304082121.4737411, "message": "I'm the only one who knows how to run our site", "group_id": 8448, "id": 855733}, {"user_id": 31595, "stars": [], "topic_id": 21998, "date_created": 1304082555.875798, "message": "mmh", "group_id": 8448, "id": 855857}, {"user_id": 7384, "stars": [], "topic_id": 21998, "date_created": 1304082645.406693, "message": "Highlights from the API", "group_id": 8448, "id": 855871}, {"user_id": 30250, "stars": [], "topic_id": 21998, "date_created": 1304082654.171531, "message": "but, should we all be programmers?", "group_id": 8448, "id": 855876}, {"user_id": 7384, "stars": [], "topic_id": 21998, "date_created": 1304082822.973767, "message": "which are big projects", "group_id": 8448, "id": 855899}, {"user_id": 7384, "stars": [], "topic_id": 21998, "date_created": 1304082864.793931, "message": "there are a couple of book-related things I'll need help with, but let's table those for now because it doesn't matter until S3 is built", "group_id": 8448, "id": 855905}, {"user_id": 30250, "stars": [], "topic_id": 21998, "date_created": 1304083598.711992, "message": "michael-e sent me some utilities using Form Controls", "group_id": 8448, "id": 856053}, {"user_id": 30250, "stars": [], "topic_id": 21998, "date_created": 1304083621.5727761, "message": "It takes some time to figure out how to integrate them into Symphony", "group_id": 8448, "id": 856059}, {"user_id": 7384, "stars": [], "topic_id": 21998, "date_created": 1304083955.21755, "message": "alright, so here's what's been raised so far as possible places to put effort:", "group_id": 8448, "id": 856159}, {"user_id": 7384, "stars": [], "topic_id": 21998, "date_created": 1304084008.6352389, "message": "4) ensembles", "group_id": 8448, "id": 856165}, {"user_id": 30250, "stars": [], "topic_id": 21998, "date_created": 1304081967.7349219, "message": "I'd be curious to know why people aren't blogging about Symphony", "group_id": 8448, "id": 855708}, {"user_id": 30250, "stars": [], "topic_id": 21998, "date_created": 1304081989.677891, "message": "Is it because we don't have a robust ensemble for blogging?", "group_id": 8448, "id": 855712}, {"user_id": 7384, "stars": [], "topic_id": 21998, "date_created": 1304082099.006043, "message": "awesome", "group_id": 8448, "id": 855731}, {"user_id": 7384, "stars": [], "topic_id": 21998, "date_created": 1304082223.899781, "message": "and we need to make this stuff discoverable", "group_id": 8448, "id": 855766}, {"user_id": 31595, "stars": [], "topic_id": 21998, "date_created": 1304082275.432183, "message": "where all content is aggregated", "group_id": 8448, "id": 855778}, {"user_id": 30250, "stars": [], "topic_id": 21998, "date_created": 1304082322.021193, "message": "sites sneak into the showcase without much fanfare", "group_id": 8448, "id": 855793}, {"user_id": 30250, "stars": [], "topic_id": 21998, "date_created": 1304082360.697783, "message": "We could probably generate a lot of discussion just in congratulating people on the work they've already done", "group_id": 8448, "id": 855811}, {"user_id": 31595, "stars": [], "topic_id": 21998, "date_created": 1304082393.123642, "message": "true", "group_id": 8448, "id": 855814}, {"user_id": 30250, "stars": [], "topic_id": 21998, "date_created": 1304082402.3658531, "message": "and sharing how they were able to build certain features", "group_id": 8448, "id": 855817}, {"user_id": 7384, "stars": [], "topic_id": 21998, "date_created": 1304082460.880626, "message": "especially the good ones ;)", "group_id": 8448, "id": 855839}, {"user_id": 30250, "stars": [], "topic_id": 21998, "date_created": 1304082562.043365, "message": "We have a documented API now", "group_id": 8448, "id": 855859}, {"user_id": 30250, "stars": [], "topic_id": 21998, "date_created": 1304082629.029381, "message": "It seems we could all benefit from discussions about how to use that API", "group_id": 8448, "id": 855868}, {"user_id": 31603, "stars": [], "topic_id": 21998, "date_created": 1304082642.175163, "message": "i second that", "group_id": 8448, "id": 855870}, {"user_id": 7384, "stars": [], "topic_id": 21998, "date_created": 1304082649.6511109, "message": "something like that", "group_id": 8448, "id": 855873}, {"user_id": 31595, "stars": [], "topic_id": 21998, "date_created": 1304082668.175734, "message": "good point, i don't think so", "group_id": 8448, "id": 855877}, {"user_id": 31595, "stars": [], "topic_id": 21998, "date_created": 1304082710.810075, "message": "definitely", "group_id": 8448, "id": 855882}, {"user_id": 31603, "stars": [], "topic_id": 21998, "date_created": 1304082750.263279, "message": "yes. definitely.", "group_id": 8448, "id": 855890}, {"user_id": 30250, "stars": [], "topic_id": 21998, "date_created": 1304082721.1879721, "message": "Allen is an untapped gold mine of information", "group_id": 8448, "id": 855884}, {"user_id": 30250, "stars": [], "topic_id": 21998, "date_created": 1304082828.852741, "message": "Plus, how can we support you, Craig, better in the book project?", "group_id": 8448, "id": 855902}, {"user_id": 30250, "stars": [], "topic_id": 21998, "date_created": 1304083281.8310771, "message": "Combined with Email Template Manager, it's pretty exciting what can be done now", "group_id": 8448, "id": 855972}, {"user_id": 30250, "stars": [], "topic_id": 21998, "date_created": 1304083339.001265, "message": "I'd love to release an ensemble based on what I've built for our agency", "group_id": 8448, "id": 855981}, {"user_id": 7384, "stars": [], "topic_id": 21998, "date_created": 1304084165.276968, "message": "ok, so...", "group_id": 8448, "id": 856197}, {"user_id": 7384, "stars": [], "topic_id": 21998, "date_created": 1304084222.962718, "message": "what I think might help is:", "group_id": 8448, "id": 856209}, {"user_id": 31595, "stars": [], "topic_id": 21998, "date_created": 1304084330.4897881, "message": "couldn't agree more", "group_id": 8448, "id": 856236}, {"user_id": 30250, "stars": [], "topic_id": 21998, "date_created": 1304082873.6085739, "message": "right", "group_id": 8448, "id": 855906}, {"user_id": 31595, "stars": [], "topic_id": 21998, "date_created": 1304083087.902863, "message": "sorry guys i'll be back in minutes", "group_id": 8448, "id": 855924}, {"user_id": 30250, "stars": [], "topic_id": 21998, "date_created": 1304083871.1802371, "message": "So, the group most motivated to blog and contribute would be the German freelancers", "group_id": 8448, "id": 856141}, {"user_id": 31595, "stars": [], "topic_id": 21998, "date_created": 1304084038.9317091, "message": "i'm back, sorry", "group_id": 8448, "id": 856174}, {"user_id": 31595, "stars": [], "topic_id": 21998, "date_created": 1304084109.757442, "message": "same for me", "group_id": 8448, "id": 856185}, {"user_id": 7384, "stars": [], "topic_id": 21998, "date_created": 1304084172.432766, "message": "here's what I think the next steps are on xpathr", "group_id": 8448, "id": 856198}, {"user_id": 7384, "stars": [], "topic_id": 21998, "date_created": 1304084520.5467491, "message": "let's be ambitious and aim for a week", "group_id": 8448, "id": 856288}, {"user_id": 30250, "stars": [], "topic_id": 21998, "date_created": 1304084524.4420791, "message": "and see how it goes", "group_id": 8448, "id": 856290}, {"user_id": 31603, "stars": [], "topic_id": 21998, "date_created": 1304084800.3414061, "message": "that would be awesome. thanks for y'alls time today!", "group_id": 8448, "id": 856356}, {"user_id": 31595, "stars": [], "topic_id": 21998, "date_created": 1304084839.8459671, "message": "thanks everyone ;)", "group_id": 8448, "id": 856370}, {"user_id": 31603, "stars": [], "topic_id": 21998, "date_created": 1304083407.0926521, "message": "that would be awesome.", "group_id": 8448, "id": 855995}, {"user_id": 30250, "stars": [], "topic_id": 21998, "date_created": 1304082955.510047, "message": "community supported ensembles", "group_id": 8448, "id": 855915}, {"user_id": 30250, "stars": [], "topic_id": 21998, "date_created": 1304083219.5319879, "message": "we can build on the idea of a community built on sharing and collaborating on code", "group_id": 8448, "id": 855953}, {"user_id": 30250, "stars": [], "topic_id": 21998, "date_created": 1304083538.081408, "message": "the problem is that the extension isn't ready for release", "group_id": 8448, "id": 856035}, {"user_id": 30250, "stars": [], "topic_id": 21998, "date_created": 1304083550.8291149, "message": "and I've been trying to work out the bugs", "group_id": 8448, "id": 856042}, {"user_id": 7384, "stars": [], "topic_id": 21998, "date_created": 1304083915.477962, "message": "you're saying in general", "group_id": 8448, "id": 856148}, {"user_id": 30250, "stars": [], "topic_id": 21998, "date_created": 1304083368.375531, "message": "And how I can improve it", "group_id": 8448, "id": 855988}, {"user_id": 30250, "stars": [], "topic_id": 21998, "date_created": 1304083514.7903781, "message": "too bad Rainer couldn't join us", "group_id": 8448, "id": 856027}, {"user_id": 30250, "stars": [], "topic_id": 21998, "date_created": 1304083522.0495241, "message": "I wanted to pick his brain", "group_id": 8448, "id": 856030}, {"user_id": 30250, "stars": [], "topic_id": 21998, "date_created": 1304083797.584507, "message": "how much time does Allen have for being a contributor?", "group_id": 8448, "id": 856118}, {"user_id": 30250, "stars": [], "topic_id": 21998, "date_created": 1304083928.373522, "message": "both, I suppose", "group_id": 8448, "id": 856152}, {"user_id": 7384, "stars": [], "topic_id": 21998, "date_created": 1304082986.872159, "message": "xpathr is getting close, vision-wise. Marco's last mockup did simplify but Nick mentioned being concerned about losing some of the pastebin-focus from the first draft", "group_id": 8448, "id": 855916}, {"user_id": 30250, "stars": [], "topic_id": 21998, "date_created": 1304083066.175926, "message": "What about the idea of building buzz and content out of the process of building it?", "group_id": 8448, "id": 855922}, {"user_id": 30250, "stars": [], "topic_id": 21998, "date_created": 1304083106.391536, "message": "about the journey, not the destination?", "group_id": 8448, "id": 855926}, {"user_id": 7384, "stars": [], "topic_id": 21998, "date_created": 1304083115.741565, "message": "what do you mean?", "group_id": 8448, "id": 855929}, {"user_id": 7384, "stars": [], "topic_id": 21998, "date_created": 1304083401.245471, "message": "Hm", "group_id": 8448, "id": 855993}, {"user_id": 7384, "stars": [], "topic_id": 21998, "date_created": 1304083420.3114059, "message": "the concept is kind of broken", "group_id": 8448, "id": 855998}, {"user_id": 7384, "stars": [], "topic_id": 21998, "date_created": 1304083433.3890569, "message": "and I'm fairly sure it won't be in S3, in its current form at least", "group_id": 8448, "id": 856002}, {"user_id": 7384, "stars": [], "topic_id": 21998, "date_created": 1304083863.2439139, "message": "that'd be nice", "group_id": 8448, "id": 856138}, {"user_id": 7384, "stars": [], "topic_id": 21998, "date_created": 1304084047.4702959, "message": "ok what would each of you be most motivated to work on?", "group_id": 8448, "id": 856177}, {"user_id": 7384, "stars": [], "topic_id": 21998, "date_created": 1304084456.2741389, "message": "how long should we give ourselves to finish these?", "group_id": 8448, "id": 856269}, {"user_id": 30250, "stars": [], "topic_id": 21998, "date_created": 1304084517.4535761, "message": "let's shoot for a week", "group_id": 8448, "id": 856285}, {"user_id": 30250, "stars": [], "topic_id": 21998, "date_created": 1304083145.570281, "message": "That's another thing that we've got: github enthusiasts", "group_id": 8448, "id": 855934}, {"user_id": 30250, "stars": [], "topic_id": 21998, "date_created": 1304083249.601624, "message": "It's a complicated beast", "group_id": 8448, "id": 855967}, {"user_id": 7384, "stars": [], "topic_id": 21998, "date_created": 1304084587.8901191, "message": "after that, I think we can try to finalize the wireframes", "group_id": 8448, "id": 856298}, {"user_id": 7384, "stars": [], "topic_id": 21998, "date_created": 1304084656.6124771, "message": "brilliant, thanks guys. and let's keep this word-of-mouth/blogging thing in the back of our minds", "group_id": 8448, "id": 856326}, {"user_id": 7384, "stars": [], "topic_id": 21998, "date_created": 1304084815.3380091, "message": "i know you've all been busy", "group_id": 8448, "id": 856361}, {"user_id": 30250, "stars": [], "topic_id": 21998, "date_created": 1304084828.445344, "message": "Thanks, everyone, for meeting today", "group_id": 8448, "id": 856364}, {"user_id": 30250, "stars": [], "topic_id": 21998, "date_created": 1304083259.8105659, "message": "But quite powerful", "group_id": 8448, "id": 855968}, {"user_id": 30250, "stars": [], "topic_id": 21998, "date_created": 1304083568.739475, "message": "but the potential is huge, IMO", "group_id": 8448, "id": 856045}, {"user_id": 7384, "stars": [], "topic_id": 21998, "date_created": 1304084287.0953751, "message": "2) mapping out an implementation on a system level (pages, sections, etc)", "group_id": 8448, "id": 856225}, {"user_id": 7384, "stars": [], "topic_id": 21998, "date_created": 1304084399.847815, "message": "Ok, I'll add pages to the new Github wiki: https://github.com/symphonycms/wg/wiki", "group_id": 8448, "id": 856256}, {"user_id": 7384, "stars": [], "topic_id": 21998, "date_created": 1304084806.0941911, "message": "thank you guys", "group_id": 8448, "id": 856358}, {"user_id": 30250, "stars": [], "topic_id": 21998, "date_created": 1304083174.8461521, "message": "We don't necessarily have to wait for the new Symphony CMS site", "group_id": 8448, "id": 855939}, {"user_id": 30250, "stars": [], "topic_id": 21998, "date_created": 1304083543.2511599, "message": "it's buggy", "group_id": 8448, "id": 856038}, {"user_id": 7384, "stars": [], "topic_id": 21998, "date_created": 1304083568.0614891, "message": "it's a very complicated functionality in a Symphony 2 context", "group_id": 8448, "id": 856044}, {"user_id": 31595, "stars": [], "topic_id": 21998, "date_created": 1304084145.2366779, "message": "screencasts would be nice too", "group_id": 8448, "id": 856194}, {"user_id": 30250, "stars": [], "topic_id": 21998, "date_created": 1304084769.2982309, "message": "Well, shall we wrap it up?", "group_id": 8448, "id": 856349}, {"user_id": 7384, "stars": [], "topic_id": 21998, "date_created": 1304084771.5852339, "message": "i really want to get the WGs blogging more", "group_id": 8448, "id": 856351}, {"user_id": 30250, "stars": [], "topic_id": 21998, "date_created": 1304083358.26056, "message": "I'd have tons to talk about related to how it was built", "group_id": 8448, "id": 855987}, {"user_id": 7384, "stars": [], "topic_id": 21998, "date_created": 1304083412.5146551, "message": "I'm still puzzling over what to do with ensembles", "group_id": 8448, "id": 855996}, {"user_id": 30250, "stars": [], "topic_id": 21998, "date_created": 1304083477.750777, "message": "broken in its current implementation?", "group_id": 8448, "id": 856010}, {"user_id": 30250, "stars": [], "topic_id": 21998, "date_created": 1304083499.6459849, "message": "I'm actually more excited about the Section Migration extension", "group_id": 8448, "id": 856021}, {"user_id": 30250, "stars": [], "topic_id": 21998, "date_created": 1304083663.671175, "message": "Having a workspace with some migration files allows you to add functionality to an existing install with a click", "group_id": 8448, "id": 856073}, {"user_id": 7384, "stars": [], "topic_id": 21998, "date_created": 1304083687.7644861, "message": "FWIW I'd rather see us spend time implementing something like xpathr or xsltea than working on an ensemble", "group_id": 8448, "id": 856085}, {"user_id": 7384, "stars": [], "topic_id": 21998, "date_created": 1304083707.741596, "message": "the latter of which would have to be documented, maintained, and updated to be of much use", "group_id": 8448, "id": 856096}, {"user_id": 30250, "stars": [], "topic_id": 21998, "date_created": 1304083762.3924639, "message": "yeah. I do have a bias toward ensembles, which others may not share, I suppose. ;-)", "group_id": 8448, "id": 856105}, {"user_id": 7384, "stars": [], "topic_id": 21998, "date_created": 1304083766.7796271, "message": "xsltea could launch very easily if we strip down its first instantiation as just a site for articles. problem there is in actually generating the content", "group_id": 8448, "id": 856108}, {"user_id": 7384, "stars": [], "topic_id": 21998, "date_created": 1304083959.6880071, "message": "1) screencasts", "group_id": 8448, "id": 856160}, {"user_id": 7384, "stars": [], "topic_id": 21998, "date_created": 1304083976.9911489, "message": "2) increased word-of-mouth (blogging more, etc)", "group_id": 8448, "id": 856162}, {"user_id": 30250, "stars": [], "topic_id": 21998, "date_created": 1304084148.7920251, "message": "and find code to get the job done", "group_id": 8448, "id": 856196}, {"user_id": 7384, "stars": [], "topic_id": 21998, "date_created": 1304084252.461108, "message": "1) writing a few key use cases that we want to support", "group_id": 8448, "id": 856217}, {"user_id": 7384, "stars": [], "topic_id": 21998, "date_created": 1304084310.11163, "message": "trying to get a sense of those things might give us more insight and help us finalize the wireframes", "group_id": 8448, "id": 856232}, {"user_id": 7384, "stars": [], "topic_id": 21998, "date_created": 1304084823.7830069, "message": "so the time is very much appreciated", "group_id": 8448, "id": 856362}, {"user_id": 30250, "stars": [], "topic_id": 21998, "date_created": 1304084100.0427859, "message": "to be honest, xpathr", "group_id": 8448, "id": 856182}, {"user_id": 30250, "stars": [], "topic_id": 21998, "date_created": 1304084121.5276079, "message": "because it would add to our ability as a community to share code", "group_id": 8448, "id": 856188}, {"user_id": 7384, "stars": [], "topic_id": 21998, "date_created": 1304084145.2394969, "message": "agreed.", "group_id": 8448, "id": 856195}, {"user_id": 7384, "stars": [], "topic_id": 21998, "date_created": 1304084419.0143549, "message": "let's set a schedule", "group_id": 8448, "id": 856262}, {"user_id": 30250, "stars": [], "topic_id": 21998, "date_created": 1304083831.774699, "message": "right", "group_id": 8448, "id": 856129}, {"user_id": 7384, "stars": [], "topic_id": 21998, "date_created": 1304084004.257973, "message": "3) xpathr and/or xsltea", "group_id": 8448, "id": 856164}, {"user_id": 30250, "stars": [], "topic_id": 21998, "date_created": 1304084375.543189, "message": "sounds great", "group_id": 8448, "id": 856251}, {"user_id": 30250, "stars": [], "topic_id": 21998, "date_created": 1304084632.6319921, "message": "yep", "group_id": 8448, "id": 856319}, {"user_id": 7384, "stars": [], "topic_id": 21998, "date_created": 1304083826.3473001, "message": "slim to none for now", "group_id": 8448, "id": 856127}, {"user_id": 7384, "stars": [], "topic_id": 21998, "date_created": 1304083833.8163431, "message": "but more moving forward", "group_id": 8448, "id": 856131}, {"user_id": 7384, "stars": [], "topic_id": 21998, "date_created": 1304083850.6530621, "message": "if we can nab one or two other editors", "group_id": 8448, "id": 856135}, {"user_id": 7384, "stars": [], "topic_id": 21998, "date_created": 1304083885.6145511, "message": "to xsltea?", "group_id": 8448, "id": 856143}, {"user_id": 30250, "stars": [], "topic_id": 21998, "date_created": 1304083892.521209, "message": "They're trying to build businesses and create buzz around Symphony", "group_id": 8448, "id": 856144}, {"user_id": 7384, "stars": [], "topic_id": 21998, "date_created": 1304084015.549597, "message": "am i missing any?", "group_id": 8448, "id": 856166}, {"user_id": 31603, "stars": [], "topic_id": 21998, "date_created": 1304084033.3819749, "message": "i think that's it.", "group_id": 8448, "id": 856171}, {"user_id": 7384, "stars": [], "topic_id": 21998, "date_created": 1304084752.0017149, "message": "yeah", "group_id": 8448, "id": 856346}, {"user_id": 30250, "stars": [], "topic_id": 21998, "date_created": 1304084783.799098, "message": "That'd be great", "group_id": 8448, "id": 856353}, {"user_id": 7384, "stars": [], "topic_id": 21998, "date_created": 1304084660.2442329, "message": "I think it's very important", "group_id": 8448, "id": 856328}, {"user_id": 30250, "stars": [], "topic_id": 21998, "date_created": 1304084842.3635111, "message": "I'm excited about where we can go from here", "group_id": 8448, "id": 856372}, {"user_id": 31603, "stars": [], "topic_id": 21998, "date_created": 1304084856.852196, "message": "thank you marco and stephen!!! stephen, thanks for leading us", "group_id": 8448, "id": 856376}, {"user_id": 7384, "stars": [], "topic_id": 21998, "date_created": 1304084204.024931, "message": "i think our last two wireframes are getting close, but they're not 100% there yet.", "group_id": 8448, "id": 856205}, {"user_id": 30250, "stars": [], "topic_id": 21998, "date_created": 1304084676.4509399, "message": "yep", "group_id": 8448, "id": 856332}, {"user_id": 30250, "stars": [], "topic_id": 21998, "date_created": 1304084693.3724921, "message": "A big part of advocacy is bringing all this activity into the open", "group_id": 8448, "id": 856335}, {"user_id": 30250, "stars": [], "topic_id": 21998, "date_created": 1304084862.533191, "message": "or evening ;-)", "group_id": 8448, "id": 856379}, {"user_id": 7384, "stars": [], "topic_id": 21998, "date_created": 1304084534.310461, "message": "so by May 6, make sure any idea you've got are poured in there", "group_id": 8448, "id": 856292}, {"user_id": 30250, "stars": [], "topic_id": 21998, "date_created": 1304084855.3590009, "message": "Have a great day, everyone", "group_id": 8448, "id": 856374}, {"user_id": 31595, "stars": [], "topic_id": 21998, "date_created": 1304084873.0903111, "message": ":D", "group_id": 8448, "id": 856384}, {"user_id": 30250, "stars": [], "topic_id": 21998, "date_created": 1304084896.3771939, "message": "ciao!", "group_id": 8448, "id": 856393}, {"user_id": 31595, "stars": [], "topic_id": 21998, "date_created": 1304084501.337189, "message": "a week?", "group_id": 8448, "id": 856281}, {"user_id": 7384, "stars": [], "topic_id": 21998, "date_created": 1304084620.1855941, "message": "sound good?", "group_id": 8448, "id": 856315}, {"user_id": 30250, "stars": [], "topic_id": 21998, "date_created": 1304084502.833266, "message": "depends on how much time we've got", "group_id": 8448, "id": 856283}, {"user_id": 7384, "stars": [], "topic_id": 21998, "date_created": 1304084521.681421, "message": "yeah", "group_id": 8448, "id": 856289}, {"user_id": 31603, "stars": [], "topic_id": 21998, "date_created": 1304084878.5418079, "message": "marco, thanks for all your work on the xpathr stuff!!!", "group_id": 8448, "id": 856386}, {"user_id": 31603, "stars": [], "topic_id": 21998, "date_created": 1304085093.557076, "message": "see y'all later. have a great day!", "group_id": 8448, "id": 856443}, {"user_id": 31603, "stars": [], "topic_id": 21998, "date_created": 1304084625.8438661, "message": "yep.", "group_id": 8448, "id": 856317}, {"user_id": 31595, "stars": [], "topic_id": 21998, "date_created": 1304084632.8988831, "message": "fine", "group_id": 8448, "id": 856320}, {"user_id": 30250, "stars": [], "topic_id": 21998, "date_created": 1304084646.2432251, "message": "it'll be good to bring the working groups into the open, too", "group_id": 8448, "id": 856325}, {"user_id": 30250, "stars": [], "topic_id": 21998, "date_created": 1304084701.699192, "message": "So people can see how active this community is", "group_id": 8448, "id": 856339}, {"user_id": 7384, "stars": [], "topic_id": 21998, "date_created": 1304084774.3950861, "message": "yeah, let's", "group_id": 8448, "id": 856352}, {"user_id": 31603, "stars": [], "topic_id": 21998, "date_created": 1304084834.853333, "message": "thank you for your time as well craig", "group_id": 8448, "id": 856367}, {"user_id": 31595, "stars": [], "topic_id": 21998, "date_created": 1304084887.1438689, "message": "thank you too brian", "group_id": 8448, "id": 856389}, {"user_id": 31595, "stars": [], "topic_id": 21998, "date_created": 1304084890.33163, "message": "see ya!", "group_id": 8448, "id": 856391}] |