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[{"user_id": 1148, "stars": [], "topic_id": 2216, "date_created": 1297280940.3176429, "message": "I have been working towards a completely \"pull\" environment based on http://www.infrastructures.org/papers/bootstrap/bootstrap.html.", "group_id": 351, "id": 53756}, {"user_id": 3660, "stars": [], "topic_id": 2216, "date_created": 1297297036.4158709, "message": "Chef - http://wiki.opscode.com/display/chef/Home", "group_id": 351, "id": 61103}, {"user_id": 1736, "stars": [], "topic_id": 2216, "date_created": 1297297114.019583, "message": "+1 for Chef", "group_id": 351, "id": 61149}, {"user_id": 1148, "stars": [], "topic_id": 2216, "date_created": 1297298517.703243, "message": "So far I have researched Puppet and Cfengine 3. Why did you chose Chef for your needs over the other configuration systems?", "group_id": 351, "id": 61701}, {"user_id": 1736, "stars": [], "topic_id": 2216, "date_created": 1297298820.6225369, "message": "Chef uses real Ruby as its config language so you aren't limited to just what is exposed to the declarative layer like in Chef. Most recipes won't need this, but the flexibility comes in handy for your odd corner cases. Also it has a much nicer server API than Puppet (and the server API is now scriptable from Python). I am also a big fan of Chef's LWRP system for abstracting similar bits of your setup together, basically like libraries as for code.", "group_id": 351, "id": 61811}, {"user_id": 1148, "stars": [], "topic_id": 2216, "date_created": 1297300001.3471849, "message": "Does every client of Chef need to install the full Ruby stack?", "group_id": 351, "id": 62052}, {"user_id": 1736, "stars": [], "topic_id": 2216, "date_created": 1297301136.5900609, "message": "If by \"full stack\" you mean Ruby+RubyGems+the chef client, then yes. They have an apt repo for Ubuntu 10.04 and other major releases so it was pretty painless for me.", "group_id": 351, "id": 62307}, {"user_id": 1148, "stars": [], "topic_id": 2216, "date_created": 1297304993.6595991, "message": "Has Chef been sensitive to changes in Ruby's fast moving codebase?", "group_id": 351, "id": 63471}, {"user_id": 1736, "stars": [], "topic_id": 2216, "date_created": 1297305102.7517591, "message": "I think the current version runs on 1.9, but I'm not a Ruby guy so my knowledge of that stuff is minimal. It runs on whatever comes with Ubuntu 10.04 :-)", "group_id": 351, "id": 63493}, {"user_id": 1736, "stars": [], "topic_id": 2216, "date_created": 1297313423.849726, "message": "If you are using chef-server or the Opscode platform, be sure to check out the Fabric integration in PyChef.", "group_id": 351, "id": 64961}, {"user_id": 4156, "stars": [], "topic_id": 2216, "date_created": 1297313322.3859191, "message": "I used to use Fabric for bootstrapping, but am currently experimenting with (and enjoying) Chef, and planning to try Puppet soon as well.", "group_id": 351, "id": 64932}, {"user_id": 4156, "stars": [], "topic_id": 2216, "date_created": 1297313369.2385161, "message": "Coderanger makes good points about Chef's strengths vs (what I've heard of) Puppet, but I'm also told Puppet manifests can be created from Python/Ruby/etc, which may make the comparison sort of moot.", "group_id": 351, "id": 64944}, {"user_id": 4156, "stars": [], "topic_id": 2216, "date_created": 1297313373.5997341, "message": "Excited to find out.", "group_id": 351, "id": 64945}, {"user_id": 1376, "stars": [], "topic_id": 2216, "date_created": 1297349611.367095, "message": "+1 for bootstrapping with Fabric.  +1 for Fabric with Morgan Goose's multiprocessing fork https://github.com/goosemo/fabric", "group_id": 351, "id": 70070}, {"user_id": 1376, "stars": [], "topic_id": 2216, "date_created": 1297349871.600193, "message": "Internally we use a system that's loosely based on cfengine.  It's a pull model.  The build system is in Python and the Runtime stuff is in Perl(helpful when you still have some solaris/aix floating around, *gasp*).  Sounds scary but it's stupid powerful.  I've started a project to rewrite it and will likely open the source.", "group_id": 351, "id": 70139}, {"user_id": 6163, "stars": [], "topic_id": 2216, "date_created": 1297366632.7686779, "message": "Thusfar puppet -- prior to that a lot of blood, sweat and tears.", "group_id": 351, "id": 73354}, {"user_id": 10, "stars": [], "topic_id": 2216, "date_created": 1297382841.4340601, "message": "kickstart + puppet", "group_id": 351, "id": 76354}, {"user_id": 5863, "stars": [{"date_created": 1298864493.880904, "user_id": 9450}], "topic_id": 2216, "date_created": 1297415672.050477, "message": "Is anyone using http://theforeman.org/ for bare bone provisioning?", "group_id": 351, "id": 79201}, {"user_id": 15368, "stars": [], "topic_id": 2216, "date_created": 1298565027.4856911, "message": "Good old VMWare machine templates and Fabric.", "group_id": 351, "id": 198861}, {"user_id": 543, "stars": [], "topic_id": 2216, "date_created": 1300940273.047931, "message": "what's the kickstart equivalent for debian?", "group_id": 351, "id": 423966}, {"user_id": 1736, "stars": [], "topic_id": 2216, "date_created": 1300941426.4939251, "message": "@danparsons preseed", "group_id": 351, "id": 424103}, {"user_id": 1736, "stars": [], "topic_id": 2216, "date_created": 1300941449.806777, "message": "@danparsons Though debian (and ubuntu) can actually use kickstart files directly.", "group_id": 351, "id": 424109}, {"user_id": 20844, "stars": [], "topic_id": 2216, "date_created": 1301072254.9417391, "message": "I stick with kickstart / puppet usually.  The big win with puppet is the dependency graph, so if something goes wrong (which *never* happens, because you're careful all the time, right?), puppet will hold off on applying anything that depends on that resource, but happily keep on doing everything else.  A failed change to a .bashrc should never block a change to my.cnf, for example, even if the change to my.cnf is written afterwards in the config.", "group_id": 351, "id": 440106}, {"user_id": 9617, "stars": [], "topic_id": 2216, "date_created": 1301381579.70437, "message": "i use preseed and chef: http://wiki.opscode.com/display/chef/Quick+Start", "group_id": 351, "id": 467161}, {"user_id": 14444, "stars": [], "topic_id": 2216, "date_created": 1301467528.0926361, "message": "I use puppet, it really works!!", "group_id": 351, "id": 478841}]